----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Denise Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 7:36 PM Subject: Re: TEACHSOC: Re: An e-mail from a student...
> Anything that contributes to anti-intellectualism also contributes to > small-mindedness. I suggest that the anti-intellectual, anti-critical > thinking culture that has spawned this instant messaging "language" is > also a culture that doesn't care about others. (Remember what's come of > electing such a "plain spoken" president). It is white, upper-middle > class suburban kids, not the marginalized, who partake most in this kind > of communication (from what I can see, anyway); it is this group who has > embraced the "meanness" of our society's "reality show" mentality. > Let's start being proud of being and acting smart. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Robert Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:27 PM > Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: An e-mail from a student... > > >> >> I agree with others who have commented on this thread that it's >> important to explain to the student that, in higher ed and in the >> business world, this type of grammar would be viewed negatively. That >> then gives the student an idea of the skills and language he or she >> would need in order to be successful in the "game." >> >> However, I would also take this opportunity to address with the student >> the power dynamics of the situation - how powerful gatekeepers (such as >> educators) use language as a means to ridicule or demean others and/or >> prevent the access of individuals and groups into powerful social >> institutions based on their perceived lack of intellect. This issue is >> essentially about power and privilege, and it connects to race, class, >> and gender. This is a very important component of this "teaching >> moment" that needs to be addressed, in my opinion. In short, I would >> critically analyze the gatekeeping with the student. >> >> Denise >> >> **************************************** >> Denise L. Johnson >> Sociology >> Bellevue Community College >> 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, A251 >> Bellevue, WA 98007-6484 >> (425) 564-5143 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Robert Greene >> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:38 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] >> Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: An e-mail from a student... >> >> >> And how did they get out of grammar school and middle school? But what >> an opportunity for a sociological discussion of this phenomenon rather >> than looking to blame the institutions. >> >> >> >>>>> GIMENEZ MARTHA E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/19/06 1:29 PM >>> >> >> I think there are two issues here: >> >> 1. How to deal with student who write in such appalling fashion - you >> were kinder than I would have been :) >> >> 2. Why do we find this kind of student in our classes? What was the >> admissions office doing? What were our colleagues doing? What were >> such students doing in high school? And why did high schools let them >> graduate? >> >> Sigh..... >> >> Martha >> >> Martha E. Gimenez >> Department of Sociology >> Campus Box 327 >> University of Colorado at Boulder >> Boulder, Colorado 80309 >> Voice: 303-492-7080 >> Fax: 303-492-8878 >> ******************* >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 19 May 2006, Michael Klausner wrote: >> >>> I received this e-mail from a student who was in my class last term. I >>> replied that the horrendous punctuation, grammar, spelling was not >>> appropriate when communicating with anyone except friends, perhaps. >>> >>> >>> >>> Even then, it would not be appropriate. Should I have been "harder", >>> "easier" on him? >>> >>> >>> >>> Comments welcome >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> you were right when u said u wanted to see me again ahaha.. i was >>> wonderign when ur classes were for fall semester so i can see if i can >>> retake ur class.. get back to me when you can >>> >>> sincerly, >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Teaching Sociology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/teachsoc -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
