I also recall seeing the Milgram commentaries and experiment in an Annenberg psychology series - about Vol. 19/20 (approx - social psychology) - "The Power of the Situation." Although our psychology faculty use much of the series, I really have shown this one a lot.
Susan St. John-Jarvis, Assoc. Professor of Sociology Corning Community College 1 Academic Drive Corning, NY 14830 (607) 962-9526 or secretary 962-9239 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Stolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 4:09 pm Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: Human Behavior Experiments Documentary To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] > > Hi: > > There is an interesting chapter by Zimbardo in the following book > about > Milgram's Obedience studies. > > Obedience to authority : current perspectives on the Milgram > paradigm / > edited by Thomas Blass. > Mahwah, N.J. : Lawrence Erlbaum Associates, 2000 > > (I don't have the book here and can't remember if this is where I > read about > the connection between his reesearch and the ethics code or not...) > > However, in this piece, he does look back at his role in the > research, how > he became so wrapped up in his role as warden, and how he was > shaken by the > comments of his fiancee (?) to put an end to the experiment. He > did > mention also, as he did in the piece on Court TV last night, that > Milgram > was very pleased that the Stanford Prison Experiment "took the > heat" > regarding ethics off of him. Interestingly, Zimbardo also mentions > that he > and Milgram knew each other from way back - they attended high > school > together. > > Kathy > > Kathy Stolley > Department of Sociology and Criminal Justice > Virginia Wesleyan College > Norfolk, Virginia 23502 > 757-233-8768 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >From: "Robert Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: Human Behavior Experiments Documentary > >Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 11:24:10 -0500 > > > > > >But didn't Zimbardo's research preclude the establishment of the > APA's code > >of ethics? I thought I read that somewhere. > > > > >>> Richard Butsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/02/06 11:14 AM >>> > > > >As sociologists, we should remember that Zimbardo's and Milgram's > >experiments were done within a psychology paradigm. They were looking > >for psycholgical explanations for these behavior. Milgram, for > example>was building on the Authoritarian Personality literature > (based on > >Adorno's work with psychoanalytic roots). > > > >Moreover, the interpretations typically dramwn from these studies are > >psychological, i.e. what kinds of personalities will do such > things, and > >the answer they give is just about anybody if given a chance or > pushed>by authority figues to do so, but without developing any > structural or > >cultural explanations. The NY Times review for example cites the > "herd>mentality" from century old crowd psychology, as the > explanation why > >research subjects did not resist. > > > >As such they require reinterpretation in a sociological framework. > For>one example, not the herd mentality, but rather individuals > noticing>that others are not acting, so that they would be deviant > and therfore > >vulnerable to retribution. The research create a normative situation. > >The subject by agreeing to participate in the situation has also > agree>to accept those temporary norms in an artificial situation > >(artificiality giving them an excuse for why to not resist). Not > >surprising to those who study collective behavior, there is no > >resistance. What conditions that give rise to collective action are > >present in these situations, that subjects might act to change norms? > > > >Richard Butsch > >Professor of Sociology > >Rider University > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Teaching Sociology" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to teachsoc- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/teachsoc-~----------~----~----~----~- > -----~----~------~--~--- > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Teaching Sociology" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/teachsoc -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
