I had the same experience a few semesters ago.  Students had to write a
major paper on a local issue affecting their communities and also make a
presentation to the class.  Several put together powerpoint presentations
and I found them to be much better than the papers; overall, they did a
much better job stating their argument was and providing evidence in
support of that argument when they presented to their classmates than they
had when they wrote their papers.  I too would be interested if anyone has
any insights as to why this was the case.

Gwen Nyden
Oakton Community College
Des Plaines, IL


>
> Hi all:
>
> I'm still thinking through/processing the pros and cons of PowerPoint in
> the
> classroom.. However, Del's post reminded me of something.
>
> Last semester was the first semester I have had easy access to a
> computer/projection system in the classroom.  For presenting their final
> projects, many students decided to make computer-based presentations.
> Overall, they did an outstanding job using PowerPoint (and having worked
> in
> the govt sector for a decade, believe me, I had a LOT of bad uses to
> compare
> their work to).
>
> I also noted when reading their accompanying written final reports, I was
> surprised to see that they actually did a better job in some respects with
> their PowerPoint.  Generally, their presentations were better organized,
> outlined, and flowed much better in PowerPoint than in their written work.
> I don't know if anyone else has had this experience or quite what it says
> for the classroom (maybe someone here can offer some suggestions), but I
> found it intriguing.
>
> Kathy
>
> Kathy Stolley, Ph.D.
> Department of Sociology and Criminal Justice
> Virginia Wesleyan College
> 1584 Wesleyan Drive
> Norfolk, VA  23502
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 757-233-8768
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Del Thomas Ph D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Michael Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: 'teachsoc' <[email protected]>
>>Subject: TEACHSOC: Re: Effectively using PowerPoint
>>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:38:48 -0400
>>
>>
>>If you have access to resources you may find that students working in
>>groups can greatly benefit from and learn from making their
>>own PP presentations.  This can be particularly useful for students when
>>the content is difficulty or complex.   As even small groups will have
>>students
>>with more than one learning style  the struggle  will force them to go
>>beyond  being consumers and receivers.   They collaborate become
>>producers, creators,
>>they have ownership.
>>
>>One of the challenges that they may encounter is most of the content is
>>complex, fuzzy, organic and abstract random PP forces them to put it
>>into a crisp mechanical
>>and linear "box."  In some of the struggle the tapestry of social things
>>can emerge from what ..... may have been considered misunderstanding.
>>
>>Del
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Michael Johnston wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Jack, Marty, and others,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Could you share some tips with us that you personally have found
>> > effective and a brief description of why?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > One tip that I have heard regularly is “Don’t put large sections
>> of
>> > text into PowerPoint.”  The argument is that the teacher then just
>> > ends up reading, which is even worse than lecturing.  This is
>> > generally correct.  BUT, this can be effective if used sparingly and
>> > appropriately.  For example, I know an instructor who assigns text by
>> > Weber.  What he does is to include a few slides with actual text, text
>> > that is very hard to understand, and then explains how to read this
>> > text.  The benefits to this approach are multiple: (1) everyone is on
>> > the same page, even if they forgot their book; (2) it takes less time
>> > to get everyone at the right place in the text; (3) keywords can be
>> > highlighted and easily pointed out; (4) instruction is layered with
>> > additional anchors beyond books and the instructor’s voice – the
>> > PowerPoint Slide and the instructor’s body movement as they point to
>> > certain keywords, etc. (5) questions about particular sections of the
>> > text are more widely understood by the class because the instructor
>> > can quickly and easily point to the relevant text (6) more anchors
>> > facilitates the instructor to lecture at more abstract levels
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I’m looking forward to hearing more tips from others!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best wishes,
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Jack Estes
>> > *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2006 4:38 AM
>> > *To:* Marty Schwartz; teachsoc
>> > *Subject:* TEACHSOC: Re: lousy lecturing
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I agree that PowerPoint can be a powerful tool in the classroom if
>> > it's not abused. We have workshops all the time in EFFECTIVE use of
>> > PowerPoint, not only for business classes but for anyone. I think
>> > they're good. They often include a 'best practices' aspect in which
>> > various profs bring in what works for them. I wonder how many schools
>> > do this? Our workshops are partially paid for by some big grant.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jack Estes
>> >
>> > BMCC/CUNY
>> >
>> > NYC
>> >
>> >     ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> >     *From:* Marty Schwartz <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >     *To:* teachsoc <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >
>> >     *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2006 11:40 AM
>> >
>> >     *Subject:* TEACHSOC: lousy lecturing
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     Gerry said:
>> >     <snip> And again, I would put forth for argument the idea that the
>> >     problem isn't the lecture hall, but lousy lecturers.  (One more
>> bad
>> >     Powerpoint presentation, and I will trash someone's computer for
>> >     sure.)<snip>
>> >
>> >     Gerry - as a friendly request -- with all of the Del's name
>> >     calling, Del obfuscation, Del gobbledegook, etc. I seem to have
>> >     lost track of what is going on.  Of course, being reduced to tears
>> >     seems to me a perfectly normal reaction.  But, in your sentences
>> >     above, what exactly IS the problem to which we are all
>> >     referring?  Maybe I live in some kind of la-la land, but while I
>> >     certainly know a few irresponsible teachers, I find myself mostly
>> >     surrounded by very hard working people who do fantastic jobs
>> >     teaching.  Maybe it is who I talk to, but I go to national
>> >     conferences and am always inspired by what others do in their
>> >     teaching (I am running a little nickel and dime workshop at ASA
>> >     featuring the noted teachsocer Angus Vail, for example).  Often
>> >     the community college people tend to be even more dedicated and
>> >     better at their task than we are (even those paid at the same
>> >     level as cafeteria workers).  Personally, I have won a stack of
>> >     teaching awards, but as someone who is primarily a publishing
>> >     researcher I am always in total awe of the teachers I meet
>> >     (including, of course, Profs. McKinney and Ballentine!).
>> >
>> >     As to PowerPoint, which I love, I agree that too few people know
>> >     how to use it.  Perhaps a positive note might be to start getting
>> >     our regional and national associations, and our graduate schools,
>> >     to start teaching people how to use it?  Management schools, PR
>> >     schools and others now do this regularly.  But in
>> >     Sociology I've never met anyone who took a lesson, or even had
>> >     access to a lesson, in the style and design of PowerPoint (as
>> >     opposed to the mechanics).
>> >
>> >     Cheers.
>> >
>> >     Martin D. Schwartz
>> >     Professor of Sociology
>> >     Ohio University
>> >     119 Bentley Annex
>> >     Athens, OH 45701
>> >     740.593.1366 (voice)
>> >     740.593.1365 (fax)
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>
>



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