Of course, Marti replied only to me and I didn't realize, and now it looks like I called Arthur "Marti" and replied to nonexistent text.
SO, Arthur, sorry it looks like I called you Marti, and Marti, sorry if you meant for the stuff I quoted to be just to me! I got fooled by Gmail's UI. :-/ On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Max Binder <mbin...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Thanks for your input, Marti. I think it's interesting to think of the > list you provided in terms of WMF and/or the community. > > >> 1. Lack of constancy of purpose >> 1. No planning for the future >> 2. Lack of long-term definition of goals >> >> > This has been true in the (at least perceived) sense of WMF's strategy, > but also/alternatively in the sense of the community lacking agreement on > what it wants to accomplish in the long term, and everyone's lack of > understanding around the future of the movement as it pertains to our > projects (as opposed to "free knowledge overall"). > > >> 1. Emphasis on short-term profits >> 1. Worship of the quarterly dividend >> 2. Sacrificing long-term growth of the company >> >> > While of course this is not directly applicable (WMF doesn't do profit) > I'm not sure how this applies. Focus on fundraising and slave to it? > Accepting appropriation of content in a way that doesn't give back to WMF? > Simply Quarterly Planning? > > the historical context of the work we do and to get to know some of the >> people/concepts/etc that have greatly influenced a lot of the >> approaches/perspectives we in the TPG take. > > > Hear, hear. :) > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Arthur Richards <aricha...@wikimedia.org > > wrote: > >> Good stuff, thanks for sharing this, Max. >> >> As a somewhat related aside, I just finished reading a book called 'The >> Age of Heretics: A History of the Radical Thinkers who Reinvented Corporate >> Management >> <https://www.amazon.com/Age-Heretics-Reinvented-Corporate-Management/dp/0470190701>', >> which chronicles some of the 'heretical' figures in the world of corporate >> management (essentially a condensed history of organizational development >> as a field). Deming was one of the 'heretics' discussed in the book. I >> hadn't known previously that he was one of the grandparents of 'total >> quality management' which caught on big time in Japan (eg Toyota) after >> World War II but was basically ignored in the US until the late 80s/90s >> when his ideas began to catch on; until managing for short-term gains >> (focusing on short term ROI, managing by metrics, command and control, etc) >> reasserted itself and squashed all that. Anyway, I dunno what things are >> like these days in the corporate world, but I have the sense that things in >> the US (at least in the software world) are generally caught somewhere in >> between the two. The book's worth a read if you're interested in this kinda >> stuff; I personally found it fascinating to better understand the >> historical context of the work we do and to get to know some of the >> people/concepts/etc that have greatly influenced a lot of the >> approaches/perspectives we in the TPG take. >> >> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Max Binder <mbin...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Interesting video, also kind of funny. A bit dated, but some >>> still-relevant goodies. ~15 minutes. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehMAwIHGN0Y&feature=youtu.be >>> >>> Relevant Wikipedia article: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming#Key_principles >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming#Seven_Deadly_Diseases >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> teampractices mailing list >>> teampractices@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/teampractices >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Arthur Richards >> Sr. Agile Coach: Organizational Collaboration >> Team Practices Group >> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Team_Practices_Group> >> [[User:Awjrichards]] >> IRC: awjr >> +1-415-839-6885 x6687 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> teampractices mailing list >> teampractices@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/teampractices >> >> >
_______________________________________________ teampractices mailing list teampractices@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/teampractices
