I have been arguing that since 1999 when I was battling business teachers who needed to have word and wordperfect loaded on the same computers, because they had to teach the kids how to use both. Really?
-Heath Henderson On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:42 PM, "Steele, Thomas C" <[email protected]> wrote: > ... and I almost gave you a hearty AMEN! :-) > > Thomas C. Steele > Technology Director > Manteno CUSD #5 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JimHays > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:54 AM > To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CAD software > > Ben > > You are preaching to the choir here. > > <rant> > I was talking about this at Tech Feast in one of my sessions the other > day. We need to teach skills and teach students how to use those skills > to solve problems instead of teaching them keystrokes and menu items. > After all, we are called "TEACHERS" and not "TRAINERS". Industry has > TRAINERS to train their employees to perform the repetitive tasks that > are required by corporate mandates. Schools have TEACHERS to teach > students haw to think and solve problems for themselves. > > Why, in the technology classroom, do we continue to TRAIN students for > jobs that may or may not exist when they are ready for them instead of > TEACH them how to think technologically so that they can adjust to the > ever-changing technological world in which we live? > </rant> > > OK. I feel better now........... > > > > > Ben Story wrote: >> As someone that was taught WordPerfect and has successfully survived >> the business world of Office I will say that it's better to teach the >> skills and the skills to adapt to change than to teach software. When >> I was in college I was upset that they weren't teaching the buzzword >> languages like Java and C++ (late 90s). Now I look back and realize >> that instead we were learning to program and I have been able to pick >> up multiple languages over the years because of it. The biggest part >> of the above is to teach the students to be flexible and how to adapt >> to change. Who knows, in 2 years Windows 8 might move the start >> button to the top right of the screen! >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, McKay, Curtis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This unfortunately has turned into something similar to, do we teacher word >>> processing or Microsoft Word? There's a lot of keboards and special >>> commands taught in our CAD class specific to AUTOCad. I'm not saying >>> whether I agree with that or not, but something to keep in mind when talking >>> about switching this kind of software. >>> >>> >>> >>> Curtis McKay >>> >>> Network Administrator >>> >>> Belleville Township High School District 201 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Siri >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:27 AM >>> To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [tech-geeks] CAD software >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.cadstd.com/samples/index.html >>> >>> maybe it is better than I thought. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Scott Siri <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> oh yeah...there is a free one called CADSTD lite, but again I know little >>> about CAD and expect that this has far too few features, but perhaps it >>> would be appropriate for what the kids really need or use. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Scott Siri <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I downloaded a free version of Alibre which is a mechanical design and CAD >>> program. I don't know much about this stuff, but it was all several years >>> ago when I had time to play with stuff like that. >>> >>> I just called them about educational pricing. $150 per seat for their >>> professional version. You would want to check up on whether it really did >>> the same thing as CAD. >>> >>> The contact number the sales guy gave me was 214-389-9056. >>> >>> He did confirm that the new stuff runs on windows 7! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Mike Oliveri >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Our vocational center recommended Pro/ENGINEER instead. It's much more >>> reasonably priced at $200ish a seat if I recall correctly. Never did find a >>> good open alternative for our teacher. He looked at SketchUp, but it doesn't >>> have all the measurements and such of CAD. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:50 AM, Steele, Thomas C wrote: >>> >>> >>>> For those that offer drafting or CAD classes, what software are you >>>> using? >>>> >>>> We have been using AutoCAD LT but our version doesn't work with Win7 >>>> and the software is quite expensive considering the number of students >>>> that use it. I would be very interested in an open source solution. >>>> I have found several free or open source options but not being very >>>> well versed in CAD I would like some first hand feedback. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -ts >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPod >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tech-geeks mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech-geeks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *** This Email was sent by an educator at Mendota IL. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech-geeks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech-geeks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks > _______________________________________________ > Tech-geeks mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks _______________________________________________ Tech-geeks mailing list [email protected] http://lists.illinicloud.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech-geeks
