----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Hawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Tech] freenet not suited for sharing large data


>>> 1. You can't hide a server that people have to connect to.

>>True.

>>>4. It can still be attacked by crackers, lawyers, and network
>>>failures.
>>
>>Not if they don't know the IP, and they don't.

> Which one? Either you can't hide the IP, or you can - you can't have
> it both ways.
Hmm.. what I was trying to say was that if they don't know the IP of the
central point it can't be attacked. And the protocol should be desiged so
that they DON'T know the IP. Thus it is not vulnerable for attack. And as I
said earlier in the PDF I linked to, I have sketched how this could be
achieved.

> To be honest, this topic seems a little...obvious.

Well.. I don't know the details of how freeNet works. I just read a paper on
it some time ago, and then it struck me that it was not suited for large
data transfers, much like many other protocols I've seen. So I've started
this thread so that people who want to defend freeNet can tell me why I am
wrong, OR that I am NOT wrong.
Besides, YOU seems to agree with me, but apparanlty others don't.. :P

> FreeNet is not suited for sharing large data.
That's what I'm arguing for.. but I'm not sure I'm right :)

> That's OK. It's not meant to be. It's meant to be good for sharing
> data /anonymously/. Now, certainly we can add tweaks and improvements
> (like splitfiles) to help speed up certain types of transfers (like
> large files).That isn't, and never will be, the focus, however.

So in what way is freeNet optimised accoring to you? And is it not wrong to
optimise for other things that large data transfer?
Won't users get pissed off if their BW is consumed for no good reason?

> If you want to transfer large files fast, find an FTP server.

First of all, I'm not looking for anything on a practical level, only on a
theoretical level. I'm want a protocol with certain properties. Why? Because
I find this stuff very interesting.

> If you want anonymity, use FreeNet.
First, see above :)
Second, there are many alternatives.. but all of them and freeNet has flaws
according to me...


/Gabriel

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