* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2006-04-06 19:19:45]:

> At present, sometimes the node will freeze on startup, because
> /dev/random isn't returning any data. This is unacceptable. How to deal
> with it?
> 
> Firstly: If /dev/hwrng exists, we don't need to block on /dev/random.
> This is easily fixed.
> 
> Secondly: On Windows, we have to use SecureRandom.generateSeed(). This
> calls CAPI, the Windows built-in entropy source. However on linux it does
> a blocking read of /dev/random. So we can get blocked even though we
> haven't actually tried to read /dev/random ! Solution: Only use
> SecureRandom.generateSeed() in the constructor on Windows. It might
> possibly have other sources on Linux, so it should still be used
> sometimes, but not blocking... if we don't want to block for real
> entropy. Do we? That is the question:
> 
> Do we want to block until we get some real entropy?
> Option 1: Don't block on startup for entropy: Start a read of
> /dev/random in the background, wait a second or two, and then continue
> the start up. Use /dev/urandom if we have to. CON: In theory we won't
> get enough entropy. There have been practical attacks on e.g. Netscape
> relating to lack of entropy, however /dev/urandom and Yarrow are far
> more secure... PRO: The user never needs to know anything about this.
> 
> Option 2: Start Fproxy without a real node identity, and create one when
> we have enough entropy to do that. Tell the user to make some entropy.
> 
> Option 3: Do some disk access to generate some entropy, if we can't get
> some immediately. CON: The user will think we are installing spyware. We
> can tell them what we are doing, combined with option 2...
> 
> 
> #1 is probably Good Enough.

I would vote 3, at last resort 2

NextGen$
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