On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:20:19PM +0200, Florent Daigni?re (NextGen$) wrote:
> * Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2006-05-03 17:06:03]:
> 
> > How many SoC projects can we realistically mentor? We have 7
> > applications at present, and have set our target to 3. One of the
> > applications is sufficiently whacky that I will need to read several
> > papers on his site in order to evaluate it; all the others would be
> > useful.
> > 
> > Ian, will you be available over the summer to mentor people? Many people
> > can assist students, even if they themselves are working for us under
> > SoC; what you can't do is VOTE on proposals and also be a submitter of
> > proposals.
> 
> It's not clear : previous statements from google, including the FAQ now
> say that it's not possible :/ that we should 'focus' on either beeing a
> mentor OR a student.
> 
> > I should be here for the vast majority of the summer,
> > although there will definitely be shortish periods when I am not
> > available at all.
> > 
> > IMHO:
> > - The FUQID replacement is important.
> 
> see below
> 
> > - The search engine is moderately useful.
> > - JFKi is moderately useful.
> > - Load balancing/limiting simulations and implementation is very
> >   important. Our current algorithm *mostly* works, but opens up a new
> >   class of attacks on direct peers, which probably will not be mitigated
> >   sufficiently by premix routing.
> 
> I don't think it matches the "self-contained" requirement :) Moreover,
> it involves a fair bit of understanding of how freenet works and possibly
> the black magic behind the routing... Not a SoC project imho.

Hmmm. You think? We've been discussing it for some time, and I'm not
convinced that there will need to be much deep magic as far as *routing*
goes.
> 
> > - Local messaging and file sharing is useful.
> 
> Eternal debate : do we want to link freenet with tools possibly
> incitating to do copyright infringment ? Even if we don't bundle it,
> shall freenet be the mentoring organization of such a project ?

Well, we definitely should have hooks whereby applications can talk to
their direct peers, for example for bookmark sharing.

> btw, according to Bombe, Freemule is on the road ^-^

Freemule and other tools that do not take into account local trust
relationships aren't likely to work well.
> 
> > - STUN and UP&P is useful.
> 
> I'm not convinced :)
> 
> > - The ant routing proposal; I have no idea, need to investigate his
> >   site.
> 
> we can't see proposals ^-^ maybe we should incitate people to cross post
> their applications on @tech ?
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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