Fair enough-
I (mis)understood the problem as wanting to make it possible to add the connections without requiring file-transfers.. I didn't realize that you were trying to avoid having to download the binary from a central source. For that, I agree, burnable .zips, and .5-style distribution servlet pages are likely the best that can be done. -Colin NextGen$ wrote: > * Colin Davis <Colin at sq7.org> [2007-03-05 15:49:17]: > >> I'm sorry that I'm being dim- >> Could you please explain how the network topography is exposed? I'm sure >> you're right, I'm just missing it. > > Well, your solution is about shortening the reference. I thought you were > trying to address the node installation/deployment problem without emu/the > mirroring system. > > NextGen$ > >> >> >> >> >> If we have two clients, A and B, who want to talk to one another.. Both >> are behind Firewalls.. >> >> * A calls up B, and tells him "Connect to me, at 11.22.33.44, password >> 'Bob is a super cool password'" >> >> * B Says sure, and clicks the "Connect to a new client" icon in Fred, >> enters the IP and Password. >> >> * B's machine starts sending Freenet packets to A, thus opening up a NAT >> hole to his machine through the UDP trick. >> >> * B then tells A "It's running! Add my computer back. Mine is >> 22.33.44.55, and the password is 'Donkeys are really cool, and I like >> the way they look' " >> >> * A adds B's IP and password, and starts sending freenet packets to B. >> * A's machine is now exposed, through the UDP trick. >> >> * B's packets, which he is still sending, get through. >> * A's packets get through to B. >> >> * Now that they're talking, they exchange signed keys (real noderefs), >> so next time, they don't need to do the passwords. >> >> * Fred disables the passwords. >> >> Nothing has required the use of a third party, other than the telephone >> call between the two of them to share the passwords. >> >> -Colin >> >> >> >> >>>> When Side-A added the noderef of B, it would start sending out packets >>>> to B, knowing that they won't get returned.. But the Sending of these >>>> packets would open a NAT-hole.. >>>> Then, Side-B would get around to adding the noderef of A, and start >>>> sending packets to A, opening a NAT-hole on their own side.. Side A's >>>> packets then get in through this hole, just as B's now arrive at A. >>>> >>>> What am I missing? >>>> >>>> -Colin >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech mailing list >> Tech at freenetproject.org >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech > _______________________________________________ > Tech mailing list > Tech at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech
