The routers in quetion are the entire Actiontec mi424wr series mi424wrn and
the Westell UltraLine Series3 - Model 9100 and likely any other routers
used by Verizon FIOS that have MoCa capability(i may have missed some). The
main thing that is needed is the ability to compile firmware with full
hardware functionality. I personally could care less about the Verizon FIOS
remote management modifications and web interface modifications since that
is what I want to replace. The issue with these routers is that they are
often nearly impossible to replace since you can't just go out and buy a
MoCa capable router. These are pretty much the only models that exist with
that capability and I need to be able to manage the internal routing with
iptables etc. in order to compile firmware that allows them to be bypassed
and turned into bridge devices or firmware that can run without the Verizon
interface. My direct email failed to deliver.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 5:59 AM, James Hilliard
<[email protected]>wrote:

> The routers in quetion are the entire Actiontec mi424wr series mi424wrn
> and the Westell UltraLine Series3 - Model 9100 and likely any other routers
> used by Verizon FIOS that have MoCa capability(i may have missed some). The
> main thing that is needed is the ability to compile firmware with full
> hardware functionality. I personally could care less about the Verizon FIOS
> remote management modifications and web interface modifications since that
> is what I want to replace. The issue with these routers is that they are
> often nearly impossible to replace since you can't just go out and buy a
> MoCa capable router. These are pretty much the only models that exist with
> that capability and I need to be able to manage the internal routing with
> iptables etc. in order to compile firmware that allows them to be bypassed
> and turned into bridge devices or firmware that can run without the Verizon
> interface.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Armijn Hemel 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> hi James,
>>
>> [off-list]
>>
>>
>>  OpenRG 
>> http://www.jungo.com/support/**gnu-code-requests/<http://www.jungo.com/support/gnu-code-requests/>is
>>  a company that programs firmware builds for a number of routers that are
>>> distributed by ISP's for example verizon fios in the united states. However
>>> they are not providing usable source code to the router firmware and use
>>> methods such as hosting the components encrypted on their web-servers to
>>> prevent people from being able to use the source code to create custom
>>> firmware.  As far as I can tell every single verizon fios router even of
>>> different brands uses this openrg(not really all that open) firmware. While
>>> the firmware does sometimes compile it does not compile into anything that
>>> resembles the binary firmware that is actually used on these devices. Their
>>> hostile GPL notice listed on their website in my opinion indicates they
>>> have no intention of complying with the GPL license. The fios routers I
>>> looked at are mainly the actiontec mi424wr series and westell routers.
>>>
>>
>> I talked to my contacts at Cisco about this. The situation is a bit more
>> complex than you think. OpenRG supplies source code and everything to
>> ActionTec and Westell, who then modify and redistribute to Verizon.
>> OpenRG/Cisco do not even have the final code that gets distributed to
>> Verizon and they are not the direct supplier, so the wrong companies to
>> talk to about this. Cisco has verified that the source code archive they
>> supply to ActionTec and Westell are actually correct and complete but as
>> said they do not have any of the modifications made by those two companies.
>>
>> Regarding the website: they are admitting that it is suboptimal and they
>> are working on changing it to make it more open source friendly.
>>
>> If needed I can talk with ActionTec. Please let me know the model numbers
>> and I will get in touch with them.
>>
>> armijn
>>
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