The L2 broadcast domain would grow...excessive, I suspect. If you've got a
campus large enough to require this, you've got enough people and devices
that you're probably don't want them all on the same subnet. Again, just
guessing. I've never dealt with a network this large - my largest is my
current, with ~ a thousand lit switchports.

--Matt


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:43 AM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Apr 2013, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
>
>  On 04/07/13 04:15, David Lang wrote:
>>
>>> also, as you move from one zone to another, all your connections will
>>> drop as the new router won't have them in it's masquerade tables.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that would be true.  I spaced on the NAT state table, though, you
>> could probably find a way to sync them, across routers.  Depending on the
>> router. :)  But, definitely not a "supported" feature.
>>
>
> actually, there is the supported libconntrack that can sync these sorts of
> things between machines, but it's really aimed at the active/passive
> failover. It has no way of handling the case where the destination machine
> of the replication has conflicting data in it's state tables.
>
> i've never set it up, but I've been watching it off and on for a few
> years. (I run over a hundred firewall pairs, but failover is infrequent
> enough that we've just accepted that when a failover happens connections
> get lost rather than the complexity and resulting problems that
> implementing this replication would cost)
>
>
>  subnet size should not be a problem, very few places need to support
>>> more than 64K (/16) users, and even fewer would need more than 16M users
>>> (/8)
>>>
>>
>> Just needs to not clash with any other subnet that they need to get to.
>>  But that is usually easy.
>>
>
> yep.
>
>
>
>>>  IPv6 is another story...
>>>>
>>>
>>> How would IPv6 change anything here? I don't see IPv4 really being a
>>> limit.
>>>
>>
>> Supporting v6 in this method would break some of v6s pieces, I think.
>> IPv6 does not like NAT (it can do it, as long as you don't use any of the
>> security features.)  Remember IPsec is backported from IPv6.  IPsec cannot
>> be NATed, only tunneled.
>>
>> I think with IPv6, a single campus wide VLAN would work fine.  It has no
>> broadcast, only multicast.
>>
>
> usually when people say things like that, they are implying that IPv6
> solves the problem (or at least makes it much easier), so I wanted to check
> on what you were meaning :-)
>
> David Lang
>
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