Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>> You need sshd on a standard port for your *users* to be able to use it.
>>     
>
> I'll partially agree.  I wouldn't expect my users to know how to specify a
> port - however - anybody who doesn't know - can easily be helped in advance
> by creating a PuTTY profile or shortcut on the desktop.  So there is a
> possible solution there.  And also most users that use ssh are techies who
> can handle something like specifying a port in PuTTY.
>
>
>   
>> Hiding ssh on a strange port doesn't really add much protection.
>>     
>
> Totally agreed.  The purpose for putting sshd on a nonstandard port is not
> for the sake of protection.  It's for the sake of avoiding network or
> processor congestion caused by brute force attacks.  When I have port 22
> open to the internet, there have been times where I notice actual slowdown
> on the *local console* because the system is so busy getting hammered.  
>   

I'd argue that moving the port causes more pain than it prevents. $WORK 
has several such gateways without significant issues, although I would 
need to talk to the gateway maintainers to find out how they avoid the 
load from brute force attacks. I can certainly do this if the LOPSA 
crowd is interested.

The ssh gateways tend to be enough of a pain to support that using 
nonstandard ports is not considered a useful measure here. We do 
probably have significant hardware resources in front of the ssh 
gateways to help them out (because $WORK likes to build hardware ;-).

- Richard

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