> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:29:50PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > Hi Tobias, > > > > i'm not sure as i don't use tools like adduser(8) and useradd(8), > > and i doubt they are widely used among developers anyway. I think > > they are around mostly because some people are used to them from > > other systems. > > Moin Ingo, > > useradd(8) is a different utility, it defaults to the users group unless > specified otherwise.
It is ridiculous that we have two utilities like this -- besides being inconsistant... they both suck in other ways as well. > > So, gratuitously changing the defaults is not necessarily a wise move. > > As far as i can see, FreeBSD adduser(8) defaults to per-user-groups as > > well, even though it's a different implementation. Very probably, > > that's what people expect from this particular tool. > > > > Of course, in case adduser(8) users like the change, i'm not > > opposed to it. > > Well I'm an adduser(8) user and I don't like the default, since it's > inconsistent with the rest of the system. On OpenBSD, I expect it to > behave like the other user management tools and especially the install > script. I agree. > It's not some mandated POSIX behaviour, so I'm not that concerned with > compatability to XMLBsd in this particular case. I agree. > This topic came up last year as well, including the same useradd/adduser > confusion: > http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-tech/2009/5/8/5660874 > > "useradd really does that? A new group for every user? I think that > is stupid behaviour." It is stupid behaviour, and I like the patch. If both these programs go simpler and more alike, in the long term that would be better for everyone.
