>My point was, development should start around something widespread >so people can test easily. This maybe urtwn, iwn and iwm, for instance.
You deleted Stefan's last paragraph in his previous mail -- SPECIFICALLY -- because it refutes what you state. He (and others) will work on what they want to work on. Not what you want. Unless those events coincide. That coincidence lands in his (and his girlfriend/wife's) pervue, not in yours. The problem is you don't pay it backwards. You don't pay it forward. You don't pay at all. You just beg. In fact, your mails don't beg, they insist -- hang on -- your mails demand specific paths of effort. You try to argue for your needs, providing nothing to allow that to happen, except defacto insults against the people who would try to improve the general issues. You don't try to understand their view on what you write. So I'll ask in a general fashion: Are you stupid? Or do you just believe expression of "my needs! our needs! that is what we need" will result in the right effects? Or is your mail placed to create a response like mine, which will try to make us look unfriendly because we don't give you what you demand? You don't provide any encouragement except for "me me! think of me!". Somehow you don't understand you are just like the people who run Windows because "it just works, Microsoft is obviously listening to my list of needs". So why not just go run Windows? I fully recognize OpenBSD is a strange fringe development community. You should recognize that too, or walk away. But instead you are engaging on the list, behaving like a value-add-nothing user, and yet demanding specific featuresets without any understanding of the effort, actually since this is a thread you are going further and doubling down to expose it as demand. You are out of touch. Can at least learn to behave properly in a space when you get things for nothing?