On 2015/05/18 11:54, Mark Kettenis wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 10:47:01 +0200
> > From: Stefan Sperling <s...@openbsd.org>
> > 
> > OTOH, many laptops nowadays ship with Intel AMT and suffer the same issue
> > or worse. Yet we still run on them. Current AMT versions have an attack
> > surface that dwarfs ASF's. Perhaps this is a lost cause and we'll simply
> > have to accept that a lot of hardware is insecure by design.
> 
> This is getting a bit off-topic, but so far the laptops I've seen had
> Intel AMT disabled by default.  Not sure of that means that the
> firmware isn't running or that it just doesn't respond to network
> packets.
> 

Somewhat relevant: on a machine with a management-capable nic, you can do
this:

# nc -l -u -vvv 623

then on another machine:

$ nc -u <ip_addr> 623

and start typing. If it doesn't show up on the first machine, the firmware
is stealing packets.

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