Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:20:56 -0500 Okan Demirmen <[email protected]> > On Thu 2016.11.17 at 03:30 +0200, [email protected] wrote: > > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 20:47:49 +0200 [email protected] > > > Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:42:42 -0500 Okan Demirmen <[email protected]> > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > mpi@ recently alerted me to the fact that cwm(1)'s default keybindings > > > > for > > > > ptrmove actions conflict with emacs users' uses, namely all the > > > > control-[arrow] > > > > bindings that cwm(1) grabs. It has actually been like this since > > > > keyboard-based > > > > pointer movements were added, almost exactly 9 years ago. (what have > > > > people done > > > > since??) > > > > > > > > In any case, I'm happy to remove the keybindings for the 8 pointer > > > > movement > > > > actions, however I'm curious what the usage pattern is for even keeping > > > > this > > > > feature. I don't use keyboard-based ptr movements, and find it odd, but > > > > it's > > > > here, so I'll ask - anyone use it, or object to it's removal? > > > > > > > > I realize what asking for opinions means :) > > > > > > > > Regardless, if it stays, the current bindings will be removed - There > > > > are way > > > > more emacs users (including those using emacs mode in ksh for example) > > > > than > > > > cwm(1) ones for sure...those default bindings should win. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Okan > > > > > > > > > > Hi Okan, tech@, > > > > > > Thank you for opening up this topic. I would have done the same a long > > > time ago and with a different aspect to it. Precisely, as we are here, > > > would many users object to aligning the default key bindings for cwm(1) > > > with several other programs in addition to Emacs? Assuming most modern > > > keyboards have the Mod4 (with a variation of a window / OS symbol) key, > > > would that be fine to consider moving cwm's defaults around the 4- key? > > > > > > I myself (very likely many others) also use tmux(1), xterm(1), ksh(1) & > > > Emacs (especially the Org-Mode structure editing) & there're conflicts. > > > So far, I've been happily managing it pretty well with a heavy modified > > > cwm config file to remap C-, CS- to 4-, 4S- and M-, MS- to 4M, 4MS- and > > > CM-, CMS- to 4C-, 4CS- and some other specifically application related. > > > > > > This is to say, I would please ask you to not remove the keyboard based > > > pointer movement functionality, it is very useful to me and is possible > > > to both keep it, and resolve the conflicts with the above applications. > > > > > > I would be happy to provide my .cwmrc file in my next post, if there is > > > any interest in this direction. Thank you for improving cwm over time. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Anton > > > > Hi Okan, fellows, > > > > Let me decipher that nuisance map above.. The logic is simple: hold the > > 4- key and arrows to move the pointer, add the M- key to move the window, > > or the C- key to resize the window, for an extra boost use the S- key on. > > > > Still not interested presumably, but please let me know is it the 4- or?? > > > > Kind regards, > > Anton > > I only removed the default mappings for pointer motion; the feature remains > and people can map to any combo's they wish. I don't think using '4' as > part of a default mapping anywhere is a good idea, for not everything has > that key (nor is everything a pc), including one of my main laptops. > > Thanks, > Okan
Hi Okan, I also want the right key on my mouse to mark both the end of the window and to spot its geometry. Can we see this usable, thanks. Kind regards, Anton
