Hi Tobias, *,

thanks for the heads up.
I'd see a security benefit by using those chiphers. (-> compared with CBC 
Ciphers)

Thanks for your time.

g,
Stephan


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 01:36:47PM +0200, Tobias Heider wrote:
> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 13:36:47 +0200
> From: Tobias Heider <tobias.hei...@stusta.de>
> Subject: Re: AEAD Suites in IKEX (iked) and Phase 1 (isakmpd)
> To: Stephan Mending <l...@md5collisions.eu>
> Cc: tech@openbsd.org
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:52:24PM +0200, Stephan Mending wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I was wondering if there was a reason why there are no AEAD Suites 
> > implemented for initial IKEX in iked or phase 1 in isamkmpd ? Even though 
> > iked's childSAs
> > support it and Phase 2 in isakmpd does as well ? Is it just lack of time ? 
> > Because for example strongswan does exactly support that. Using GCM Suites 
> > and/or
> > Chacha20Poly1305. 
> > 
> > Thanks for your time. 
> > 
> > Best regards, 
> > Stephan
> > 
> 
> The quick answer would be: "No one bothered to implement it."
> 
> It is on my list of planned features for iked, but honestly having
> AEADs in the IKE SA is not really a priority.
> 
> The main reason to prefer AEADs is their better performance.
> The amount of data exchanged in phase 1 (or the IKE SA) is negligible
> because it is only used for encrypting the key exchange messages.
> The Child SAs (which are used for ESP) are where performance and
> throughput actually matter.
> 
> - Tobias
> 

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