On Nov 10 00:21:59, h...@stare.cz wrote:
> On Nov 02 12:30:56, dera...@openbsd.org wrote:
> > Paul de Weerd <we...@weirdnet.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > A recent commit by Theo changed the hw.perfpolicy behavior to always
> > > run at full speed when AC power is on. This means that my workstation
> > > (and servers, once I upgrade them) now consumes significantly more
> > > power, even though they usually idle.
> >
> > Did you measure how much more power?
> >
> > You must measure, to make such a claim.
> >
> > Your OptiPlex 9020 is probably a modern i5/i7, which probably contains
> > C states similar to this:
> >
> > acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(200@148 mwait.1@0x33), C1(1000@1 mwait.1), PSS
> >
> > Which means when the idle loop calls the "mwait" instruction, the cpu
> > will 'instantly' slow down to a lower clock and make other power use
> > reductions, until an interrupt happens and requires labour again.
> >
> > Most modern cpus dynamically downscale in such way, which mostly
> > obliterates the requirement to manually control things, or even handle
> > it in a slow-paced data-weak way in the scheduler.
>
> Measuring on this PC running current/amd64 (dmesg below),
> with a Sep 26 snapshot and the latest snapshot.
>
> As a naive test, I am measuring the power consumption
> of compiling the kernel (is that too small?).
>
> The numbers are mostly the same on both of these systems,
> with each of apmd with apm -A, -H, -L respectively,
> or without running apmd at all.
For comparison, the numbers are not the same
on a Thinkpad T400 (dmesg below) running on battery.
acpicpu0 at acpi0: !C3(100@57 mwait.3@0x30), !C2(500@1 mwait.1@0x10), C1(1000@1
mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: !C3(100@57 mwait.3@0x30), !C2(500@1 mwait.1@0x10), C1(1000@1
mwait.1), PSS
apm -A (hw.setperf=0 hw.perfpolicy=auto)
took 14m23.20s to compile the kernel,
consuming 28.93 - 21.28 = 7.65 Wh
(by hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3)
apm -H (hw.setperf=100 hw.perfpolicy=manual hw.cpuspeed=2267)
took 14m27.63s, consuming 19.25 - 11.04 = 8.21 Wh
apm -L (hw.setperf=0 hw.perfpolicy=manual hw.cpuspeed=800)
took 37m18.40s, consuming 22.25 - 10.02 = 12.23 Wh
So at last here, apm -A is better than apm -H,
but apm -L is clearly the worst.
Jan
OpenBSD 7.0-current (GENERIC.MP) #104: Thu Nov 18 09:10:05 MST 2021
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 8461684736 (8069MB)
avail mem = 8189267968 (7809MB)
random: good seed from bootblocks
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (80 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "7UET94WW (3.24 )" date 10/17/2012
bios0: LENOVO 64741EG
acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 3.0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT APIC MCFG HPET SLIC BOOT ASF! SSDT TCPA DMAR
SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP0(S4) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4)
EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB3(S3) USB5(S3) EHC0(S3) EHC1(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2261.33 MHz, 06-17-06
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR,MELTDOWN
cpu0: 3MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 7 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 266MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.2.2.2.2.1.3, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz, 2261.01 MHz, 06-17-06
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,NXE,LONG,LAHF,PERF,SENSOR,MELTDOWN
cpu1: 3MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins, remapped
acpimcfg0 at acpi0
acpimcfg0: addr 0xe0000000, bus 0-63
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP4)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x00000000 0x00000011 0x00000001
acpicmos0 at acpi0
tpm0 at acpi0 TPM_ 1.2 (TIS) addr 0xfed40000/0x5000, device 0x10208086 rev 0x6
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model "92P1137" serial 57 type LION oem "SANYO"
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0: version 1.0
"PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu0 at acpi0: !C3(100@57 mwait.3@0x30), !C2(500@1 mwait.1@0x10), C1(1000@1
mwait.1), PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: !C3(100@57 mwait.3@0x30), !C2(500@1 mwait.1@0x10), C1(1000@1
mwait.1), PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS, resource for USB0, USB3, USB5, EHC0, EHC1
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature is 100 degC
acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK not docked (0)
acpivideo0 at acpi0: VID_
acpivout0 at acpivideo0: LCD0
acpivideo1 at acpi0: VID_
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2261 MHz: speeds: 2267, 2266, 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel GM45 Host" rev 0x07
inteldrm0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel GM45 Video" rev 0x07
drm0 at inteldrm0
intagp0 at inteldrm0
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000
inteldrm0: apic 1 int 16, GM45, gen 4
"Intel GM45 Video" rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
"Intel GM45 HECI" rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 "Intel ICH9 IGP M AMT" rev 0x03: msi, address
00:1c:25:9b:0a:23
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 20
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 21
uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 22
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 23
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00
addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 "Intel 82801I HD Audio" rev 0x03: msi
azalia0: codecs: Conexant CX20561
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x03: msi
pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x03: msi
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Intel WiFi Link 5300" rev 0x00: msi, MIMO 3T3R,
MoW, address 00:21:6a:01:9f:ce
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x03: msi
pci3 at ppb2 bus 5
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 "Intel 82801I PCIE" rev 0x03: msi
pci4 at ppb3 bus 13
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 16
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 17
uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 18
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801I USB" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 19
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00
addr 1
ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x93
pci5 at ppb4 bus 21
cbb0 at pci5 dev 0 function 0 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev 0xba: apic 1 int 16
"Ricoh 5C832 Firewire" rev 0x04 at pci5 dev 0 function 1 not configured
sdhc0 at pci5 dev 0 function 2 "Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC" rev 0x21: apic 1 int 18
sdhc0: SDHC 1.0, 33 MHz base clock
sdmmc0 at sdhc0: 4-bit, sd high-speed, mmc high-speed
"Ricoh 5C843 MMC" rev 0x11 at pci5 dev 0 function 3 not configured
"Ricoh 5C592 Memory Stick" rev 0x11 at pci5 dev 0 function 4 not configured
"Ricoh 5C852 xD" rev 0x11 at pci5 dev 0 function 5 not configured
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 22 device 0 cacheline 0x10, lattimer 0xb0
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801IEM LPC" rev 0x03
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 "Intel 82801I AHCI" rev 0x03: msi, AHCI 1.2
ahci0: port 0: 3.0Gb/s
scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: <ATA, OCZ-AGILITY3, 2.15> naa.5e83a97fc6465c9d
sd0: 114473MB, 512 bytes/sector, 234441648 sectors, thin
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801I SMBus" rev 0x03: apic 1 int 23
iic0 at ichiic0
usb2 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
usb3 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub3 at usb3 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
usb4 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub4 at usb4 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
usb5 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0
uhub5 at usb5 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
usb6 at uhci4: USB revision 1.0
uhub6 at usb6 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
usb7 at uhci5: USB revision 1.0
uhub7 at usb7 configuration 1 interface 0 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00
addr 1
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 irq 1 irq 12
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
wsmouse1 at pms0 mux 0
pms0: Synaptics touchpad, firmware 7.0, 0x1c0b1 0xb00000 0x0 0xd04791 0x20000
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
spkr0 at pcppi0
aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31
vmm0 at mainbus0: VMX (using slow L1TF mitigation)
dt: 445 probes
ugen0 at uhub3 port 1 "AuthenTec Fingerprint Sensor" rev 2.00/17.03 addr 2
ugen1 at uhub3 port 2 "Lenovo Computer Corp ThinkPad Bluetooth with Enhanced
Data Rate II" rev 2.00/3.99 addr 3
vscsi0 at root
scsibus2 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
scsibus3 at softraid0: 256 targets
root on sd0a (7e642c4522750e51.a) swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
inteldrm0: 1280x800, 32bpp
wsdisplay0 at inteldrm0 mux 1: console (std, vt100 emulation), using wskbd0
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (std, vt100 emulation)
