Hi Michael Thanks for raising this with us. I've copied the Technical Board as I think they are the right body to take a position on the matter. They will certainly want to hear frmo those behind libav as well.
Mark On 07/04/11 18:55, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi Mark > > Iam the main developer (and leader if you want) of FFmpeg. > > Iam writing this a bit hastily as i just found out a technical board > meeting takes place 18UTC today ... > 3 month ago FFmpeg was forked by a small group of active ffmpeg > developers. That was done extreemly hostily by the root admins of our > server. And forced us to find a new server and hosting and point > ffmpeg.org there as all attempts to negotiate failed and we where > completely locked out of the webpage and source repository. > Next they shut down our mailing lists and withhold the subscriber lists > from us forcing us to restore them from a recent backup onto the new > server. We also where threatened with lawyers due to alleged rights on > the ffmpeg logo, both its idea and actual drawing of the current one i > have done myself. > > But these matters are of course our internal problem, i just mentioned > them as i cant get it out of my head that my friends did this. > Whats not just our internal problem is that one of the members of the > libav fork is maintaining the debian & ubuntu packages of ffmpeg. And it > seems these were renamed to libav. > I and several other FFmpeg developers have of course contacted > reinhard(ubuntu ffmpeg package maintainer) but he only awnsered > yesterday that his decission of not packaging FFmpeg but the fork he is > a member of is final. > The source code difference between the last releases of FFmpeg and libav > (0.6.2) is that FFMpeg has one tiny additional bugfix and that the text > string FFmpeg is replaced by libav in libav 0.6.2 > > The commits since the fork in trunk differs like this: > git log --oneline 111ccca602e96f18d4fab1117b2b768ae51814f7..libav/master > |cut -d' ' -f 2- |sort |uniq |wc > 785 5234 38369 > michael@blackbox:~/ffmpeg-git/ffmpeg$ git log --oneline > 111ccca602e96f18d4fab1117b2b768ae51814f7..master |cut -d' ' -f 2- |sort > |uniq |wc > 1115 8298 62166 > > That is FFmpeg has many more commits than libav. > We also merge back all changes from libav daily which is why the > uniq/sort is needed to filter duplicates out, otherwise we would have > more than 2 times as many commits as libav, as they do not merge most of > our changes into their tree. > > In terms of features, FFmpeg has 3 times as many video filters and many > more bugfixes just to name 2 differences. > > I thus belive that it is not in the interrest of the ubuntu users if > ubuntu switches from FFmpeg to libav > > best regards > Michael > (i would gpg sign this but sending this through launchpad due to not > knowing your email makes this hard) -- technical-board mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
