On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth <[email protected]> wrote: > On 27/05/11 19:34, Dustin Kirkland wrote: >> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Mark Shuttleworth <[email protected]> wrote: >> ... >>> I would be happy for this group to be accountable to the >>> TB on technical matters, though I think this group should also be able to >>> grant Ubuntu membership to contributors which is a function the CC >>> delegates. >> "Ubuntu Community membership"? Or "Ensemble Community membership"? >> >> I think I'd expect the latter, more than the former, from an Ensemble >> Council. I think I see the Ensemble Community as being separate, with >> perhaps some overlapping members, rather than being a proper sub- or >> superset of the Ubuntu Community... > > I quite specifically believe that Principia is as much a part of Ubuntu > as, say, Ubuntu Translations or the Ubuntu Forums. Formulas are a > distillation of devops expertise just like packages are a distillation > of integration and coding experience, and they are tightly coupled to > Ubuntu. > > So while I think they warrant dedicated domain-specific leadership and > governance, I think that needs to take place under the umbrella of > Ubuntu governance, and contributions there are contributions to Ubuntu. > Hence Ubuntu membership for those who make substantial and sustained > contributions.
Okay, thanks. I see your reasoning and analogies and that makes a lot more sense to me now. >> Having never served on such a council myself, can you give some idea >> as to what the approximate time commitments might be? I'd assume >> maybe a couple of hours (4-8?) per month spent attending IRC meetings >> and actively following a mailing list? Is that about right? Can you >> detail the typical responsibilities of such councils a bit more, >> perhaps? > > The Council would typically meet on IRC every two weeks, for about an > hour each time. They would have a mailing list where folk can put > questions to them for discussion and resolution. 4-8 hours per month is > a good estimate of the time commitment needed, folk who serve on the TB > or CC usually do this after hours FWIW. > > The Council serves a number of purposes: > > * it highlights a core group who can set policy for the whole work > * it provides a forums for debate and discussion, with resolution > (i.e. a decisive forum) > * it recognises contributors and can confer Ubuntu membership as a result > * it manages the permissions of contribution (i.e. who has commit to a > branch in UDD, and who can upload to which package) > > In some cases, where needed, a Council can delegate responsibilities to > achieve scale, as the TB has delegated to the DMB and the CC to the RMB's. Again, thanks for the clarifications. -- :-Dustin Dustin Kirkland Manager, Systems Integration Corporate Services Canonical, LTD -- technical-board mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board
