Boris Zentner wrote:
Hi,

Am Freitag, 12. September 2003 20:04 schrieb Stas Bekman:

[redirecting it to the httpd-test dev list where this discussion belongs]

Boris Zentner wrote:

Hi Stas,

I spend the morning on porting Apache::PageKit to Apache::Test and make
the installation of this large module easy. My idea to support perl < 5.8
and >= 5.8 was to use patch inside the makefile and make the changes to
my files after they are copied to the blib directory. So the original
files are avail everytime. Im not really sure if this is a good way, but
it stopped working on the 'make test' part since on some configurations
the content of Apache-PageKit/lib is not the same as Apache-PageKit/blib
but Apache::Test use Apache-PageKit/lib instead Apache-PageKit/blib. I
think this is wrong since if all goes well I install the content of
Apache-PageKit/blib and this is not what I tested.

I attach a patch that fix it for me. The above comment seems also
misleading.

The idea is to allow developers to test against the live files under lib, to make it possible to develop while running the test suite. I use this feature all the time in combination with Apache::Reload. You are right that we want to test against the blib when users run 'make test'. Purhaps we should make it configurable, so it's not hardwired? e.g. we could have an environment variable APACHE_TEST_DEV_MODE which when set will add the non-blib dirs to @INC.


I'm happy with the ENV idea; but i fail to see, why a lib after the blib spoil your work with Apache::Reload since under normal development, there is no blib directory.

what do you mean normal development? Once you run 'make' you get 'blib'. I develop now inside the source distro and test on the place. Apache::Test rules.


If possible I prefer a automatic solution.

what do you mean? AI ;)

But you should add this pod
'Running and Developing Tests with the Apache::Test Framework'
with Apache::Test. If I had not found that document, I never used
Apache::Test. And it is soooo usefull. Please consider to put it in.

The pointer to that document is at the very beginning of Apache-Test/README, it's hard to miss it.


Ok, I missed that. But my biggest concern is that I love perldoc so I whould like to see the the pointer to http://perl.apache.org/docs/general/testing/testing.html at the end of the Apache::Test pod. So the important hint is also avail after the installation. And the examples from the README could have a better place in the Apache::Test pod.

Sure, this is easy to fix. Done.

Even better if I could type 'perldoc Apache::Test::Howto'.

I thought about this and yes we can do the same thing we do with mp1 and mp2 docs. We should probably create modperl-docs/src/docs/any/api/ and put there manpages of projects that work the same with any mp generation. Apache::Test could go there. However since we next want to check them out into the Apache-Test distro, we will need to put them under one root:


modperl-docs/src/docs/any/api/Apache-Test/

next we can move modperl-docs/src/docs/general/testing/testing.pod to be:

modperl-docs/src/docs/any/api/Apache-Test/Apache/TestTutorial.pod

and the rest of the doccos will go as:

modperl-docs/src/docs/any/api/Apache-Test/Apache/Test.pod
modperl-docs/src/docs/any/api/Apache-Test/Apache/TestRequest.pod
etc...

next these will be checked out into httpd-test/perl-framework/Apache-Test/docs and distributed with Apache::Test.

I don't know when I'll get to do this though, unless someone beats me to it, may be in a few weeks.

p.s. modperl-docs is the documentation cvs repository

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