> Yeah OK but the first media recommended is still DVD/CD which also doesn't > allow for persistent user data. The modern equivalent is to dd to a USB > stick. In fact I think this idea of burning actual media is immensely > wasteful and archaic and shouldn't be the first recommended media anymore. > Increasingly laptops aren't coming with optical drives at all.
It's a matter of cost, which varies. My out-of-pocket expense of burning "4x" DVD+RW (@ $0.24) has been about the same as using USB stick (@ $12.) I've had USB sticks wear out (bit errors, and not from too many writes) after some years, just as I have had DVD+RW fail after fewer than 100 rewrites. Sometimes wall-clock latency matters a lot to me; then top-quality "16x" DVD+R (@ $0.25) is best. > >> >> I have not had problems using livecd-iso-to-disk with full install .iso >> files. > > I'm not having problem either, except that if you follow the documentation, > you don't get UEFI or UEFI Secure Boot capable USB media. I have no problems producing USB sticks that are UEFI bootable [and they do work], because I read the documentation, which includes "man livecd-iso-to-disk", where the "--efi" parameter is explained. > You don't get persistent user data. I do get persistent user data when I use the appropriate incantation. > You don't get a reformat if you've used the USB stick for something else, and > you end up with obscure problems you didn't know a reformat would fix. So… I get a re-format when I ask for it via --format. >> The only hassles are when I switch between i386 and x86_64, or between >> UEFI and non-UEFI systems, both of which work better for me with a re-format. <<snip>> > So I'm still left wondering why dd is last. It's a wiki. Put your $0.02 there, too. -- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
