Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said: 
> I still find the (maybe my own peculiar) F20 situation confusing.  For 
> example:

I do not know for sure, but it's entirely possible that installing when
there was both the group and the environment with the same name could have
left your system in an inconsistent state. One of the yum developers might
be able to say for sure.

> I display information about the group kde-desktop and see:
> 
>   [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum -v group info kde-desktop
>   Not loading "blacklist" plugin, as it is disabled
>   Loading "langpacks" plugin
>   Loading "refresh-packagekit" plugin
>   Not loading "whiteout" plugin, as it is disabled
>   Adding en to language list
>   Config time: 0.418
>   Yum version: 3.4.3
>   Setting up Package Sacks
>   pkgsack time: 0.109
>   group time: 0.264
> 
>   Group: KDE
>    Group-Id: kde-desktop
>   rpmdb time: 0.000
>    Description: The KDE Plasma Workspaces, a highly-configurable graphical 
> user interface which includes a panel, desktop, system icons and desktop 
> widgets, and many powerful KDE applications.
>    Mandatory Packages:
>      =akonadi-1.10.2-1.fc20.i686                                  fedora      
>     
>      =akonadi-1.10.2-1.fc20.x86_64                                @fedora     
>     
>      =akonadi-mysql-1.10.2-1.fc20.x86_64                          @fedora     
>     
>      =apper-0.8.1-1.fc20.x86_64                                   @fedora     
>     
>      =appmenu-qt-0.2.6-4.fc20.i686                                fedora      
>     
>      =appmenu-qt-0.2.6-4.fc20.x86_64                              @fedora     
>     
>      =ark-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                    @fedora     
>     
>      =bluedevil-2.0.0-0.1.20130621.fc20.i686                      fedora      
>     
>      =bluedevil-2.0.0-0.1.20130621.fc20.x86_64                    @fedora     
>     
>      =cagibi-0.2.0-6.fc20.x86_64                                  @fedora     
>     
>       cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-2.fc20.x86_64                          @anaconda   
>     
>       firewall-config-0.3.4-1.fc20.noarch                         @anaconda   
>     
>      =gwenview-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                               @fedora     
>     
>      =initial-setup-0.3.8-1.fc20.noarch                           
> @updates-testing
>      =kamera-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                 @fedora     
>     
>      =kamoso-2.0.2-12.fc20.x86_64                                 @fedora     
>     
>      =kcalc-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                  @fedora     
>     
>      =kcharselect-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                            @fedora     
>     
>      =kcm-gtk-0.5.3-14.fc20.x86_64                                @fedora     
>     
>      =kcm_touchpad-0.3.1-10.fc20.x86_64                           @fedora     
>     
>      =kcolorchooser-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                          @fedora     
>     
>      =kde-baseapps-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                           @fedora     
>     
>      =kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.i686                           
> updates-testing 
>      =kde-plasma-nm-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64                         
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-plasma-nm-l2tp-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64                    
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-plasma-nm-openconnect-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64             
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-plasma-nm-openswan-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64                
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-plasma-nm-openvpn-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64                 
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-plasma-nm-pptp-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64                    
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-plasma-nm-vpnc-0.9.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64                    
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-print-manager-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                      @fedora     
>     
>      =kde-runtime-4.11.0-1.fc20.i686                              fedora      
>     
>      =kde-runtime-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                            @fedora     
>     
>      =kde-settings-pulseaudio-20-1.fc20.noarch                    
> @updates-testing
>      =kde-workspace-4.11.0-4.fc20.x86_64                          @fedora     
>     
>      =1:kdeaccessibility-4.11.0-1.fc20.noarch                     @fedora     
>     
>      =6:kdegames-minimal-4.11.0-1.fc20.noarch                     @fedora     
>     
>      =kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64            @fedora     
>     
>      =kdegraphics-thumbnailers-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64               @fedora     
>     
>      =6:kdelibs-4.11.0-2.fc20.i686                                fedora      
>     
>      =6:kdelibs-4.11.0-2.fc20.x86_64                              @fedora     
>     
>      -kdenetwork-kdnssd
>      -kdenetwork-kget
>      =7:kdepim-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                               @fedora     
>     
>      =kdeplasma-addons-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                       @fedora     
>     
>      =kgpg-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                   @fedora     
>     
>      =kipi-plugins-3.4.0-1.fc20.x86_64                            
> @updates-testing
>      =kmix-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                   @fedora     
>     
>      =konsole-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                @fedora     
>     
>      =kruler-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                 @fedora     
>     
>      =1:kscreen-1.0.1-1.fc20.x86_64                               @fedora     
>     
>      =ksnapshot-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                              @fedora     
>     
>      =ksshaskpass-0.5.3-6.fc20.x86_64                             @fedora     
>     
>      =ksysguard-4.11.0-4.fc20.x86_64                              @fedora     
>     
>      =kwallet-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                @fedora     
>     
>      =kwebkitpart-1.3.2-4.fc20.x86_64                             @fedora     
>     
>      =kwrite-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                 @fedora     
>     
>      =okular-4.11.0-1.fc20.x86_64                                 @fedora     
>     
>      =oxygen-gtk-1.2.0-5.fc20.noarch                              @fedora     
>     
>      =2:phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.3-2.fc20.i686                fedora      
>     
>      =2:phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.3-2.fc20.x86_64              @fedora     
>     
>      =plasma-scriptengine-python-4.11.0-4.fc20.x86_64             @fedora     
>     
>      =sddm-0.2.0-0.6.20130821gite707e229.fc20.x86_64              
> @updates-testing
>      =system-config-date-1.10.6-1.fc20.noarch                     @fedora     
>     
>      =system-config-services-0.101.10-2.fc20.noarch               @fedora     
>     
>      =system-config-users-1.3.5-1.fc20.noarch                     @fedora     
>     
>      =xsettings-kde-0.12.3-6.fc20.x86_64                          @fedora     
>     
>      =xterm-295-2.fc20.x86_64                                     @fedora     
>     
>    Conditional Packages:
>       1:libreoffice-kde-4.1.2.1-1.fc20.x86_64                     
> @updates-testing
>       pinentry-qt-0.8.1-11.fc20.x86_64                            @fedora     
>     
>   [root@lenovo ryniker]# 
> 
> There appear to be two "Mandatory Packages" named kdenetwork-kdnssd and
> kdenetwork-kget that do not exist.  For example:
> 
>   [root@lenovo ryniker]# yum info kdenetwork-kdnssd
>   Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
>   Error: No matching Packages to list
>   [root@lenovo ryniker]#
> 
> If it is mandatory, it has to exist, right?

No, it just means the group metadata needs updating.

Bill
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