On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Walter Bender <[email protected]> wrote: > Tabitha et al., this is great. Thanks. > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Tabitha Roder <[email protected]> wrote: >> Testing summary - Auckland New Zealand, 25 September 2010 >> Who: Fabiana, Calvin, Leslie, Liz, John, Nevyn, Robin, Tabitha, Tom >> >> Wordgroupz: >> failed to start, both copying to journal and trying to start from USB on >> os373pyg, got logs >> Tried on build 852 but it still didn't work >> No icon appears in the activity ring on either build >> >> -- >> >> Tested backup-4 and restore-3 on 2 XO-1.0s with 1 USB stick >> Backup: you have to choose the storage device then press the button that >> looks like keep >> it then says "backing up Journal to /media... etc >> Shows x/x number of files but gives no message to say when backup is >> complete, it did create a backup onto the usb and named it with the XO name >> and some numbers with .xmj extension >> Restore: opened activity and it says "no bundle selected. please close this >> activity and choose a bundle to restore from the journal" >> Tried to click on the file on the usb that says it is the journal backup for >> this laptop - it seems to open the restore activity but hard to tell as not >> labelled as such in the frame >> found a restore journal button in the activity, clicked it and get the >> message "restoring journal from >> /home/olpc/.sugar/default/data/" a whole lot of numbers then ".xmj" >> - that file location is not the usb drive, so we assume that opening the >> file on the usb is actually copying it to the journal >> Tried to restore the same journal file on another XO but it doesn't let you >> (deliberate we think) >> Second XO Backup: Tried backing up this second XO onto usb, then deleted >> most of journal. Ran the restore and it seems to work but it on both XOs we >> get two copies of the .xmj journal backup file in the Journal. >> Found another option for restore - in the Journal you can use the arrow >> right to get to the kind of more information view (with a preview, >> description and tags) and then where the play button (start) >> is a drop down option of restore appears >> Basically they worked, though it was a bit confusing that you don't open >> restore and then choose the file on the USB. Some instructions for the user >> might be helpful - when you open the backup activity would be good to click >> a question mark and see explanation of activity, like what happens in the >> finance activity. Also, there was no obvious notification that the backup >> file creation was completed. >> >> -- >> >> Turtle Art 99 >> First a question - what is the difference between turtle art and turtle >> blocks? > > Sorry about the confusion. Turtle Art is a limited subset of Turtle > Blocks, forked off about 6 months ago. I should have asked you to test > Turtle Blocks, which is what you did, in any case. > >> Installed on os373pyg XO-1.0 and a few os852 XO-1.0s - seems to rename >> itself to turtle blocks > > The .xo bundle I sent you is for Turtle Blocks, but for reasons of > compatibility for updates, it is named turtleart.xo (Turtle Art is > named turlteartmini.xo) > >> Found some XOs have a different display to others, on build 852 it has menus >> and on build 373pyg it has buttons. > > 373pyg uses Sugar 0.88, which has the new "button" toolbars. > 852 uses Sugar 0.84, which uses the menu toolbars. > > Turtle Blocks tries to use the buttons, but will revert to menus when > the buttons are not available. > >> There is no erase option on the turtle >> activity in the list view of all the activities in dextrose 373pyg, however >> there is an erase option for turtle activity on os852. Although they are >> both showing as version 99 they are different which is a bit confusing. > > This is also due to changes in Sugar. Since Turtle Blocks is part of > the "Fructose" collection, it is in a list of activities that can be > updated, but not erases. Earlier versions of Sugar allow any activity > to be erase, which classroom teachers found to be problematic. The > idea is to let the teachers maintain a list of required activities; > Turtle Blocks is on the default list. > >> Moving the blocks around we were not sure what to do if you could not see >> the start block anymore (dragged off the screen and it is hidden by the >> buttons). > > Blocks won't move unless you move them, so I am not sure what you mean here. > > The screen itself will scroll, so perhaps you scrolled in such a way > that the blocks were off screen? Or perhaps the palette (yellow box of > blocks) was on top of them? > > You can hide the palette (with a button on the palette toolbar) or > with the red and white icon on the palette itself. You can recenter > the screen with the Full Screen button or the scroll bars to the right > and bottom of the screen. > >> Tried using the full screen option, hide/show blocks, didn't help. > > Maybe hide/show blocks should recenter the screen. I'll play with it.
I tried it and I like it. See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/2375/TurtleArt-99.xo -walter > >> Found resize so blocks very big helped, then dragged them about before >> resizing back to small blocks. It would be good if there was a limit to the >> location of blocks or if you could change your view coordinates or if there >> was a reset blocks to left/right/middle button, or a resize blocks to fit >> the screen button (perhaps in the view tab). > > The reason for adding scrolling is for supporting larger projects, so > if the blocks always moved with the screen, you couldn't take > advantage of the extra space. I like the idea of rescaling so that > everything fits. I'll play around with that idea. > >> Tried to test turtle art / blocks 99 in german and spanish but there is no >> german and there are lots of spanish options. Guessed a Spanish translation >> to test. >> >> Here is Fabiana's report on turtle art: >>> >>> Loads as turtle blocks. It was a bit confusing at first. >>> Created a path, and moved it up, but the 'start' went off screen and now I >>> have >>> Set language to Spanish (argentina). Repeated with setting language to >>> Spanish (Bolivia). >>> On actividad tab, mouse over on the turtle icon on top reads "tortuga >>> alenta' I guess it is meant to say 'tortuga lenta' (slow turtle) >>> On the turtle palette, block labelling: The clean button reads 'limpia' >>> which is not an infinitive. (the infinitive is 'limpiar') while the rest of >>> the verbs are in infinitive. >>> In the colour palette black and white show as 'black' and 'white' instead >>> of 'negro' and 'blanco' >>> In the 'box' pallette 'turtle shell' not translated >>> In the 'journal' palette: 'oculta bloques', oculta is not an infinitive, >>> should be 'ocultar' >>> In the help menu, the mouseover on the turtle pen etc is not fully >>> translated: Eg: torguga: paleta the comandos de la tortuga is ok, but then I >>> get pen: paleta de ordenes de la pluma (should read pluma: paleta de ordenes >>> de la pluma) The only one fully translated is the 'turtle' one. >>> Opened a file that i had created and saved in 'english' it loads already >>> translated to spanish. (which is good) >> > > Fabianna, thanks for your detailed review of the Spanish translation. > I've made some updates here: > > http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/2374/TurtleArt-99.xo > > -walter > >> -- >> >> Here is Tom's report on collaboration: >>> >>> Tested collaboration on os852. Started off with send to friend. >>> 1 Created a picture in record >>> 2 Closed record activity >>> 3 Renamed record activity in journal to "picture for anna" (you can see >>> where this going) >>> 4 Sent "picture" to anna (another xo) >>> 5 Picture loads in "Browse" but is a whole lot of xml >>> It turns out that we were sending the "activity" not the results of the >>> activity. After sending the picture itself, things worked a lot better. >>> Should it be possible to send a session of the Record activity to a >>> friend? If so, should it load in Browse or in Record? I guess this is a >>> special case of, should activity sessions be stored in the journal? >>> Especially a relatively stateless activity like Record? >>> While rummaging around in the logs, found a strange exception with the >>> network manager, http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2369 and many more that I >>> didn't report (next time). >> >> Another full on testing event. Thanks everyone. >> >> Tabitha >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Testing mailing list [email protected] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing
