Thanks Caryl, I take note of this comments. When we have anything to play I will send to you. The Manual is very good, we really need more work as this for other activities.
Gonzalo On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> wrote: > Hola Gonzalo.... ¡feliz año nuevo! > > Looks like you have really been thinking this through.... a couple of > comments below...i*n italics so they are easy to find*... > > Carolina > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 03:37:50 -0300 > Subject: Re: [Testing] Tam Tam on the XO-3 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]>wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > I would love to know more about the Simple Piano Activity. Unfortunately, > I don't know how to get to it. Gonzalo's notes say it is to use with Tam > Tam. It is hard to see how that would work. Is it a divided screen? You > really should have access to the controls on the Tam Tam main screen while > playing. Can you send me a screenshot? > > > I think we can use it in TamTam MIni in this way: > * Add a button in the toolbar with two states: show piano keyboard or not. > * If not selected, the screen is like is today. the kid can select > different instruments, and use the xo keyboard. > If the user select show the keyboard, arrange the controls in the left > side of the screen, in horizontal at the top of the screen > and show the image of the selected instrument, and below add the keyboard. > > *Good.... I suggest you also make it so they can click on the chosen > instrument icon and the instrument choices screen will appear. Then have it > go back automatically to the screen with the keyboard when they click an > "OK" or "done" button* > > I think will be useful for touch devices and to do easier to understand > the use of the xo keyboard as a instrument. > The keyboard in the screen can show the letters in the xo keyboard, > > *The letters on the XO keyboard have no relation to the music note names. > In fact they are in conflict. For example, C plays an E and B plays a G > while D plays a D#, G plays F# ... pity the poor musicians in the crowd! No > wonder they are confused. If you want to relate the keyboards I suggest > you do it with a blank XO keyboard with the notes used to play like a > keyboard instrument colored in 2 contrasting colors... similar to the one > in Sdenka Salas' book, but without all the confusing info. In fact, I have > been trying to develop a cheap, simple keyboard overlay for the XO that > would do just that... physically.* > > the notes in the american (german) notation, > or the notation used in spain, and south america (DO, RE, MI....) > > *The Do, Re, Mi... systen is very useful for people to learn. That is > one of the reasons I included it in my little FLOSS manual. The concept of > a "movable Do" is also useful... allowing singers to, in essence, transpose > into any key. They should eventually also learn the regular note names and > the concept of "tonic-dominant-seventh-etc" but that can come later. > * > > Did you see my email about the Tam Tam FLOSS manual I have been working > on? It has links so you can go take a look at it. I'll forward a copy to > all of you in a separate email. It shows some of the things that can be > done with Tam Tam. I tried most of them with students at the Montana > school where there is a small CP project and with a group of adults in a > workshop at the SF Summit. > > The main difficulty with Tam Tam is actually the use of the XO keyboard > with the letters on it that don't match up with the note names. > > > Is true, but match the position of the keys in a piano keyboard. > Try playing any melody in a computer keyboard using the letters as notes > and is impossible. > > *Right! Check out my little FLOSS manual! * > > Gonzalo > > People with no musical experience have little difficulty. Musicians, even > with just a few piano lessons, get very confused. > > This is the reason I haven't moved the FLOSS manual to the "publish" > status yet. My granddaughter (a 13-year-old violinist) suggested I add an > Appendix with all of the musical examples written out in standard notation > for people who already read music. I will have to wait until after SCaLE > 10X to find time to do it. > > There is also a free CC copyright class right after SCaLE on Moodle for > Wikieducators that I thought would be useful to take before working on the > musical examples. > > Keep me posted on what you decide to do with Tam Tam and other musical > Activities. I am very interested! > > > > Thanks, > Caryl > > > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 22:55:34 -0500 > > Subject: Re: Tam Tam on the XO-3 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Caryl Bigenho <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > I don't know exactly who to send this to, so maybe someone who reads > it will > > > know and pass it along. While working on materials for playing songs > on the > > > XO-1 using Tam Tam Mini and Tam Tam Jam for a Contributors Program > project I > > > am helping, it occurred to me that it should be fairly easy to > provide a > > > standard black and white piano-type keyboard screen image to use on > the new > > > XO-3. This would eliminate the frustrating process of translating > musical > > > notes from their normal letter names (eg cdefgabc) to the names of the > > > corresponding keys on the xo keyboard (eg zxcvbnm). > > > > > > So my question is... will the Tam Tam suite of Activities be included > in the > > > Sugar build for the XO-3? Have you programmed a musical keyboard > screen > > > image yet? If not, I strongly suggest one be included in your plans. > > > > I'm hacking on http://git.sugarlabs.org/simplepiano at the moment, but > > I agree that Tam Tam is a better long term solution. > > --scott > > > > -- > > ( http://cscott.net ) > > _______________________________________________ > Testing mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing > > >
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