Ladies and Gentlemen (mostly gentlemen, I expect), I've been reading this thread with ever increasing amazedness. I'm reluctant to become a party in these kinds of mail-wars, but I think I would like to make my contribution this time. First of all, let's stop. Easy enough, simply ignore all further mail on this thread (I know I'm currently not working along these guidelines myself). 'Jarausch', don't act like a bloody spoilt child, it's not very becoming, and it's damn annoying. If you're so unsatisfied by the performance delivered by system administrators, then I think it's time you use your own experience (I've read you have worked at a university computer center) and offer your free help to help support CTAN, instead of whining and sulking that things aren't going your way. And if you cannot reconcile yourself with that, then please enjoy your perfect world in Aachen where people are immediately available to attend to every students' every need, but do not annoy us with your pittyful protests. I would like to extend my gratitude to all the system's administrator who help to keep our computersystems alive. Let's use this mailinglist for teTeX related problems, from now on. I hope that we will in the future no longer have the need to get down into the kind of low-level 'nay-saying' that we have seen the last couple of days. I know that I sound arrogant, but I think we are to well educated for that. Yours truly, Wilfred (Student as well) Wilfred van Rooijen Volkswagen AG Technische Entwicklung Diesel Arbeitsverfahren Brieffach 1769/0 EAV-AV2 D-38446 Wolfsburg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------- 'Our problem stems from the fact that we basically allowed every planet and moonbase this side of Alpha Centauri to make their own version of Spam.' ------------------------------------------------------- > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Reinhard Zierke [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 2. November 2000 17:45 > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: beta versions of teTeX > > > No!!! I do know that there are people at a university computing center > > which get paid for helping the users. Just denying help is not > > acceptable! By the way, as a student, I have been working withing > > a computing center of a university. > > Your reasoning sounds like this: > > I need help in renovating my flat. People at a university computing > center > get paid for helping the users. Just denying helping me with this is > not > acceptable! > > Is this correct? > > I am working at our department's computer center. I am working 60-90 > hours a week these times - at the beginning of term - trying to keep our > computer center running. I'm not paid for my overtime. In my spare > time I am one of the people administering CTAN, which I am not getting > paid for too. I do this because I like my work and I like to help my > users. > > Guess what I am doing with someone who is requesting things (which may > be sensible but that's not the point) with your attitude. A kick in > the ass is the least thing I can think of. > > And I assume that the RRZN staff works as hard as myself. So please > refrain from calling them names and go and play in your sand box. > > Reinhard Zierke > > -- > Reinhard Zierke Universität Hamburg, FB Informatik > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vogt-Kölln-Straße 30, D-22527 > Hamburg > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: (040) 42883-2295/2276 Fax: > -2241