Christian Mondrup wrote > On 2017-12-16 22:17, Dirk Laurie wrote: > > 2017-12-16 21:03 GMT+02:00 Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com>: > > > >> I’d like to point out that the notes in the F-tuplet I discussed > >> earlier could be typeset without using the F-option at all, but with > >> a horizontal shift instead. Then if you wanted to raise the rest you > >> could use the standard command. > > > > This is conceptually simpler than the F-tuplet. I prefer it. > > > > If you had posted this earlier, I probably would not have bothered to > > alllow F in M-Tx. As it stands, I have not seen my way open to > > documenting precisely what happens. The GitHub version of the M-Tx > > manual only says: "Consult the PMX documentation for the difference > > between `D` and `F` (or experiment and see for yourself)." > > I for my part highly appreciate the M-Tx support for F tuplets. It simplifies > the > engraving of the 18th century way of notating dotted note groups as 2+1 > tuplets. It had been really cumbersome to tweak hundreds of such cases in > my adaption of Werner Icking's edition of 'Die Kunst der Fuge', now available > on IMSLP > > http://imslp.org/wiki/Die_Kunst_der_Fuge,_BWV_1080_(Bach,_Johann_Se > bastian)#504803
I hope "It had been really cumbersome" is an English grammar glitch from Christian, and that he really meant "It would have been..." and didn't really have to tweak hundreds of potential F-tuplets. In a quick scan of one of the source files from IMSLP I do see some effective uses of F-tuplets. In fact, seeing this makes the original effort of incorporating them into PMX seem worthwhile. As for Dirk's reference to the PMX manual, I'm afraid the manual is not all that clear either. All it says is "To double the duration of any note in an xtuplet, add the character D to the command for that note. This will decrease the expected number of notes in the xtuplet by one. To add a dot to the doubled note (as Bach sometimes did), use F instead of D." That could be taken to mean that all that changes from D to F is the added dot, and that's wrong. "f4Dx3 g" gives a quarter note f and an eighth note g, while "f4Fx3 g" gives a dotted eighth f and sixteenth g. If you think about it though, it pretty much has to be that way. A quarter note triplet looks like 3 eighths so doubling one and removing the next should replace the two eighths with one quarter. OTOH the F construction also makes sense as is, since it looks like a dotted eighth+sixteenth, which normally lasts the length of a quarter. If it came out dotted quarter+eighth it would look exactly like something that lasts for a half note. I'll wait just a bit longer to see if anyone is dying to be able to raise the dotted rest in "r4Fx3 a". If not, PMX283 will be coming out shortly. --Don ------------------------------- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
