James,

I was poking fun at you. I think you meant your error was less than 1%, not
your accuracy. :-)

Mark

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 6:20 PM Reddell, James R <
jreddell.ca...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

> I may be in error, and they may have been better than that.
> That was a very long time ago.
>
> James
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> on behalf of
> Mark Minton <mamintonca...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2022 5:17 PM
> *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited
>
> If your accuracy was less than 1%, I think you had a problem! ;-)
>
> Brunton accuracy was pretty good, but you can't beat properly calibrated
> Disto-X2s with front and backsights. I've done several surveys with less
> than 0.5% loop-closure error, and a couple of large loops (over 2000 feet)
> had 0.1% error!
>
> Mark Minton
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 5:58 PM Reddell, James R <
> jreddell.ca...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
> I mapped all of Caverns of Sonora up to the pit with a
> Brunton on a tripod and we consistently got less than 1%
> accuracy in short and long loops. I also got very good accuracy
> in some long surveys in Yucatan caves.
>
> James
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> on behalf of
> speodes...@gmail.com <speodes...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2022 4:40 PM
> *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited
>
> Thanks for leveling with us, Dwight.
>
> Doing the inclinations was hard going handheld. All I ever owned were two
> Army Bruntons. Suuntos were a big change!
>
> And thanks to Carl for his good article.
>
> William R. (Bill) Elliott
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 4:34 PM, Dwight Deal <dirt...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Carl Kunath wrote an excellent historical article on the use of the old
> Brunton compass in cave surveying.  Unfortunately, the major source of
> error was not clearly noted.
>
> That error is not having the Brunton as near perfectly level as possible
> when you make the sighting.  A tripod helps if you pay attention, but it is
> possible to make accurate sights hand-held as well.
>
> I taught Herb Conn how to survey with a Brunton in 1959, and in many miles
> of hand-held Jewel Cave survey loops our error was consistently on the
> order of ½ of 1%.  Keeping it level was the key. Considerable contortions
> were sometimes required of the surveyor, however.
>
> DirtDoc
>
>
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