Most cars that I've driven that used a fob have a bypass.  I had a Nissan
370z for a few years and loved the fob.  Never had an issue with it.  The
dealer told me if the fob failed or batteries died, there was a slot in the
dash to plug it in so the push button would start.  It also had a miniature
key embedded in it, for the door.  The fob was handy, always just left it
in my pocket, push button to unlock the door and start the car.

My daughter has an Audi and to crank it, the fob has to be put into the
slot in the dash, that's the push button start.  Not quite as easy as the
Nissan setup.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:17 PM, David via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Most cavers drive to remote and rural areas to go to caves, far from a car
> mechanic.     So many cavers, especially the older ones, prefer vehicles
> that
> do not have lots of electric crap on them.
>
> The newest vehicles all have smart-keys ( a.k.a. key fobs ).
>
> These things are a nightmare, or will be a nightmare when you realize they
> leave you stranded.
>
> If you purchase a new vehicle do a thorough research on key fob issues.
>
> I have heard lots of horror stories about this.     The gov't agency
> in charge of
> car safety has an ongoing study on this problem.
>
> Feel free to ad to this topic, or correct me.
>
> I want to buy a new car with push-button start, but not if it is going
> to cost me
> a fortune every time that it randomly fails.
>
> The owner should be able to bypass these things somehow, but then I guess
> the theives would use that loophole to their advantage.
>
> David Locklear
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