This is clearly an emotional time but as an honorary member of the SWR I am a
bit disappointed that cavers are descending to the level of disrespect and
misinformation that we feel agencies have been giving to us.
There is no MOU stating that agencies have to take the advice of cavers when it
comes to how they manage their caves. Personally, I'm pretty happy that NM has
had only targeted closures and that those of us who can clean our clothes have
been able to explore about 10+ miles of virgin cave in a hibernacula. Even
Aaron's friend who is ready to give up on caving in NM is on the proposal for
the next expedition.
We might be mad, we might be right, but we shouldn't be cutting off our nose to
spite our face. Wasting the BLM's time by using the CBDs tactics isn't going
to get recreational caving into those 28 caves any faster.
Jen.
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 20:40:33 -0600
From: casto...@gmail.com
To: diamond...@pvtnetworks.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; s...@caver.net;
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Re: [azregion] Background on SWR FOIA
Exactly.
On 05/23/2014 19:34, Lynda & James Sánchez wrote:
I would think that as long as a letter is respectful and
concerned it will make a difference if dozens or hundreds
show up. If done in this way it should not be considered
unprofessional and bordering on bullying.It is a citizen’s
right to speak out and should not be taken personally.
Mostly these folks do not like to read them, as it
makes more work for them, however, that is part of their job
and we pay their salaries. It is the beauty of this
country, or should be anyway. Heartfelt comments should not
be feared but may even provide an opportunity for these
officials to point out to their bosses the pending
situation, problems and/or possible solutions.
Lynda
From: Louise Power
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 3:34 PM
To: Stephen Fleming
; NM Caver List ; texas
cavers
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Re: [azregion]
Background on SWR FOIA
I had the opportunity to talk to Aaron
Stockton, Cave Specialist at the Carlsbad Field Office. He
was very nice and told me that many of the closed caves
are being considered for reopening. He also told me that
about ten of the caves that were closed were already under
a closure order; that any gated cave requires a closure
order, especially a cave like Ft. Stanton Cave, which is a
hibernaculum for a special status species. He also said
that many of the closed caves are being managed under
cooperative management and cost share agreements. He said
that the district gave the Ft. Stanton study group (don't
know what their official name is) $100,000 this year to
help with their studies.
I found him helpful and nice and
informative. He also agreed with me that inundating the
State Director with emails is no way to get him on their
side. This issue is already on his radar. As you well
know, we feds operate at a snails pace in the best of
times. Venting one's spleen on a federal official
doesn't make them faster or more cooperative.
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