I don't think it's possible for anyone other than the moderator to modify the list. So it wouldn't be possible for any one other than him to take you off the list. And you'd probably have to be taken off the list in general. I don't think he'd do it for one thread. Do what I do, just delete. It's not exactly a secret what the subject of the messages are, so quit shooting the messengers.
From: missie...@hotmail.com To: power_lou...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:51:40 -0500 Sure do and thank you for inundating me with yet another email I do not wish to read. I assume you don't know how to not respond to someone asking to not be on a thread. I asked nicely once. From: power_lou...@hotmail.com To: missie...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:46:23 -0700 probably not as long as you're on the Texascavers list. I assume you know how to use your delete button From: missie...@hotmail.com To: pw...@dca.net; power_lou...@hotmail.com; donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:57:34 -0500 Can I please be removed from the Poison ivy thread? Thank you, Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:53:38 -0400 To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com From: pw...@dca.net Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy All the inactive ingredients can be considered solvents if they are liquids. At 10/23/2013 10:51 AM -0700, Louise Power wrote: Here is what the Tech-Nu label says. I'm not a chemist, so which one of these ingredients is a solvent? Active ingredient: Grindelia robusta 3X - Purpose:anti-itch Inactive ingredients: alcohol 0.4%, aminomethyl propanol, benzethonium chloride, carbomer, fragrance, polyethylene beads, polyoxyethylene (4) lauryl ether, polysorbate 20, purified water, SD alcohol 40B 6.4% Uses: Temporarily relieves burning, itching and pain due to poison ivy, oak and sumac. Removes poison ivy, oak and sumac oil (urushiol) from skin. Warnings: Do not use on severe, draining rashes. Do not use if pregnant or nursing, ask a health professional before use. Keep out of reach of children If swallowed, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away. Keep out of eyes. If condition worsens, or if symptoms persist more than 7 days or clear up and occur again with a few days, stop use and consult a physician. Do not use on children under 2 years of age, consult a physician. Directions: To treat a rash: (adults and children 2 years and older) Squeeze a desired amount of product into hand and mix with equal amount of water. Apply to affected skin and surrounding areas and gently rub for 15 seconds; avoid breaking the skin. Rinse with cool running water and towel dry gently. Repeat as needed. To remove urushiol oil: (adults and children 2 years and older) Squeeze a desired amount of product into hand and mix with equal amount of water. Apply to exposed areas and gently rub for 15 seconds; if hypersensitive, wash entire body with Tecnu Extreme. Rinse with cool running water and towel dry. Other information: Store at 59 to 89°F (15 to 30°C) From: donarb...@mac.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:49 -0500 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy When affected, I have found -tremendous- relief of the lesions by simply spraying them with a jet of very hot water. The sensation is much more gratifying than scratching but also completely stops the itching, no meds needed after. Hot as I could stand, ONLY on the wound. Strange but true. Sent cellularly. -Don On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Mary Thiesse <wpipistre...@yahoo.com > wrote: I have to say that my instincts tell me that solvents seem like a bad idea in this case. Working in the lab if there was any kind of chemical splatter or spill it was always soap and water to wash off the area. Solvents can enable the offender (whatever it is) to penetrate the skin. So using these products seems contrary to what I've learned over the years. Personally I think I'll stick with soap (Dawn) and water for removal of the oils and then treat with topical steroids if needed. Mary TZ From: Tom Rogers < decksunlimi...@hotmail.com> To: caverarch <cavera...@aol.com>; Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I have had it many times. I have now from TCR. The best stuff to use is mineral spirits. The main ingredient in tecnu. Any alcohol based liquid will work. Rub it on immediately. Rinse with water after about ten minutes. There will still be a rash but it will stop it from spreading. Rub down tools with alcohol also to remove poison ivy oil. I suspect my repeated exposures has built immunity. Tom --- Original Message --- From: "caverarch" <cavera...@aol.com> Sent: October 22, 2013 6:12 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I am a bit more sensitive to the vine than I was in my youth. I'm sure this is the result of repeated exposure from lots of field work in the eastern woodlands and blissfully disregarding contact back in those days. Roger G. Moore -----Original Message----- From: George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> To: Texas Cavers < Texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 5:40 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are currently immune is to avoid it as much as possible. George Sent from my mobile phone ******************** George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.org -------- Original message -------- From: Sheryl Rieck <sheryl.ri...@gmail.com > Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00) To: Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> Cc: TexasCavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the other treatments. Sheryl Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant True SEM Antics, Inc. 832-632-2387 Home 361-205-1458 Cell On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote: A related product is Tecnu < http://www.teclabsinc.com/products/poison-oak-ivy/tecnu>, also commonly available at pharmacies. These products wash away the oily residue that causes the rash . They work best when used as soon as possible after exposure, but can help even the next day or two. Calamine (pink stuff), on the other hand, is simply a topical anesthetic and antiseptic. It reduces itching, but doesn't really cure the problem (treats the symptoms, not the disease). (I'm also not affected by poison ivy, but my partner Yvonne is extremely sensitive.) Mark At 06:06 PM 10/22/2013, Charles Goldsmith wrote: I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on me, always have been. The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are named brand. I've used the walgreen's brand with very good results. it's expensive, but worth every cent. Pink stuff didn't seem to work very well, my mom always put it on me. There was also some form of tablet she would buy from the local pharmacist, drop it into a pint of water and spread the resulting concoction on me, but I swore it was just water, never seemed to help and I don't know the name either. If you can, try the above link On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:47 PM, David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote: Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal experience? Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ? 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable. Is it true that some ethnic groups are not allergic, and that white-skinned people are the most allergic ? 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