Geary Schindel in San Antonio posted the following to PBSS & TX Cavers but is 
not on the SWR remailer. Interesting… Jacqui

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> From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org>
> Subject: Re: [PBSS] [SWR] Climbing gear damage
> Date: June 13, 2013 8:09:56 AM CDT
> To: "'Jacqueline Thomas'" <jlrtho...@verizon.net>, "p...@caver.net" 
> "Texascavers@texascavers.com" <Texascavers@texascavers.com>
> 
> Nice article and evaluation.
>  
> I know that some folks think I’m paranoid (which may be true) but I’ve always 
> carried my ropes and vertical gear in protective bags. The possibility of 
> damage to ropes and vertical gear thrown in the back of pickup trucks is much 
> too great. Reminds me of a trip I was supposed to go on when I was in 
> college. A bunch of friends put together a trip to do the big pits in Mexico 
> over Christmas. I really couldn’t afford to go and had to cancel.  However, 
> my friends went. The group bought a long rope which they thought was too big 
> to place in a pack so they stuffed it loose in the back of the van. They did 
> El Sotano and everyone climbed in and out with no problem.
>  
> They then went over to Golondrinas. Two folks rappelled in with no problems. 
> The third person rappelled in and the rope sheath separated and jammed into 
> the rack, about 100 feet over the lip. So, here he was dangling about 900 
> feet off the floor of the cave with the rope starting to part. He didn’t want 
> to place his safety ascender on the rope as that was where the rope sheath 
> separated. The folks up top lowered down the tail of the rope and he was able 
> to change over and ascend out of the pit.
>  
> The top crew than pulled up the rope, threw down some notes asking what the 
> two guys on the bottom wanted to do. The choices were, wait about a week in 
> the bottom of the pit while the cavers hiked a day out to the road, drove 
> back to the US to get another rope and to return.
>  
> Second option was to lower the bad portion of the rope into the pit and use 
> the end that was in the bottom to anchor the rope and let the cavers on 
> bottom climb out. That is what the cavers decided to do. They climbed out 
> without incident.
>  
> A government chemist on the trip took the damaged part of the rope back to 
> his lab and did some tests and found the rope had been exposed to battery 
> acid. The owner of the van had said that he had carried a car battery in the 
> back of the van about a month before and that it must have leaked.
>  
> Tough lesson learned.
>  
> Geary
>  
> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
> Jacqueline Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 9:37 PM
> To: p...@caver.net; Southwest Region Region; Texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [SWR] Climbing gear damage
>  
> Below is a link to a Black Diamond investigation into initially inexplicable 
> harness failure. It's  climbing gear, not caving gear, but is very 
> interesting. Jacqui
>  
> QC Lab: The Electric Harness Acid Test
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