I had Stan introduce me to the biologist a few years ago and she stated
that there are no hibernating bats in Carlsbad Caverns. There is a book from
the 50's that stated there were hibernating bats, but she told me it was wrong.
If you have any references to hibernating bats in NM, please send them to me,
I'm collecting them.
thanks
Jen.
> From: nmca...@comcast.net
> To: wnsliai...@caves.org; ing...@i-pi.com
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:34:37 -0700
> CC: s...@caver.net
> Subject: Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media
>
> It is my understanding that there used to be, perhaps still is, a small
> hibernating colony in Carlsbad Cavern. Species I'm not sure of, but numbers
> ranged from 150 to under 300. Enough of them (>30) to qualify for BLM's
> closure list. Since CaCa is managed by NPS, and since they gain gobs of
> federal revenue from keeping CACa open, it is more a political issue than a
> biological disaster prevention issue.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wnsliai...@caves.org
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:26 AM
> To: Kenneth Ingham
> Cc: s...@caver.net
> Subject: Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media
>
> The more I stare at that paragraph, the more I think it's a general
> statement about show caves. I've heard owners of some of them
> complain about the bad publicity over cave closures and the public
> thinking they are closed, calling the cave and asking if they're open,
> or worse, calling the cave and asking them why they're still open.
>
> Jen is correct about the Brazilian freetails and Carlsbad, being
> migrators, but I know there are other bat species that use the cave -
> down in the Big Room area. Either way, I doubt the microclimate
> conditions are conducive to WNS.
>
> And, like Mammoth Cave National Park, I sincerely doubt the Park
> Service would close the cave anyway. That would basically kill the
> Park, and certainly the hue and cry from the businesses in White City
> would be loud.
>
> Peter
>
> Quoting Kenneth Ingham <ing...@i-pi.com>:
>
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> > Their last paragraph reads:
> > Experts said white-nose syndrome has hurt cave in the East
> > that use bats as tourist attractions. They said it could
> > have a similar effect on Carlsbad Caverns if the disease
> > reaches New Mexico.
> >
> > It sounds like they are referring to the main cave at Carlsbad Caverns
> > National Park.
> >
> > Kenneth
> >
> >
> > On 02/07/2013 09:41 AM, wnsliai...@caves.org wrote:
> >> Really. That last statement puzzled me. What cave are they
> >> talking about?
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Quoting Kenneth Ingham <ing...@i-pi.com>:
> >>
> >> I cannot figure how they got their last paragraph (the one Jen
> >> complained about) from anything anybody said at the meeting last
> >> night.
> >>
> >> I tried to leave a comment on their web page, but they only accept
> >> comments from facebook users (I appear to be one of the only people
> >> in the world who does not use it). Maybe others can leave a useful
> >> comment.
> >>
> >> Kenneth
> >>
> >> On 02/06/2013 09:47 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
> >>>>> KOAT (Channel 7) had a brief story about the BLM WNS meeting
> >>>>> last night:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/bzt9kso
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lee Skinner
> >>>>>
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> >> Peter Youngbaer White Nose Syndrome Liaison National Speleological
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