texascavers Digest 25 May 2011 17:57:03 -0000 Issue 1321
Topics (messages 17890 through 17902):
Re: [SWR] FW: WNS Confirmed in Maine
17890 by: Diana Tomchick
Re: 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
17891 by: lmcnatt.austin.rr.com
17893 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
17895 by: Mark Minton
17896 by: Randy Baker
17897 by: Randy Baker
17899 by: John Brooks
17900 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
17901 by: galen falgout
17902 by: George Veni
Re: Just an experiment
17892 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
17898 by: Brian Riordan
Article on Caves in America
17894 by: Mark Minton
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Diana R. Tomchick
Associate Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email:
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)
Subject: [SWR] FW: WNS Confirmed in Maine
http://www.fws.gov/whitenosesyndrome/pdf/WNSconfirmedMaine_052411.pdf
and pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/usfwshq/sets/72157626665235455/
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UT Southwestern Medical Center
The future of medicine, today.
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Welcome news Carl. Looking forward to seeing it when I get back to Austin
tomorrow.
Logan (working on the Devils River Ranch)
---- Carl Kunath <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings Texas cavers!
>
> In the midst of numerous and sometimes tedious postings about Raptures, Maya
> calendars, NaturFests, Facebook, and others of a similar nature, permit me to
> interject an item directly on topic and of interest to most readers of this
> list serve:
>
>
> The special 50th Anniversary issue of the Texas Caver is now available!
>
> Printed copies have been delivered to Texas and should be distributed in the
> very near future.
>
> Meanwhile, the digital version has been posted to the TSA website in the
> Member's Area. Go to
> http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html and use your member login.
>
> In this instance, you have a choice of three versions, differing only in the
> size of the file.
>
> The smallest version is rather heavily compressed and the graphics are
> consequently of somewhat lower quality. However, if you're not fussy about
> quality or if you have a slower Internet connection or limited disk space,
> this may be your choice.
>
> The medium version is about what you are used to seeing posted for such
> things and will be adequate for most readers.
>
> The largest version (this is what was used for the printed copies) is of
> substantially higher quality and will produce a very high quality viewing
> experience and an excellent quality paper copy if you have a good printer.
>
> This was a major project and I thank all those who made the effort to
> contribute toward the success of this publication.
>
> Good caving and better days ahead!
>
> ===Carl Kunath
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Got 'em at my house and it looks great.
Kudos to Carl and Jerry for pulling this off and getting it assembled!
Per the TSA Business Meeting at Fort Clark Springs in April, the 50th
Anniversary TC will be distributed at TCR to all TSA members of record
in 2005.
Those 2005 members who don't make it out to TCR will have their copy
mailed out after TCR.
>From the minutes:
A motion was made with various amendments to publish 150 copies of the
50th anniversary issue, free to 2005 members, distributed first at TCR
(and then mailed to 2005 members who did not get it at
TCR), available to all TSA members on line, sold to anybody else who was
not a 2005 member (at a to-be-determined by the Board cost). The motion
was made, seconded, and passed with no objections.
In the event you were a TSA member in 2005, have let your TSA dues drop
(God forbid!) and have moved, please send me your current address so I
can get it to you.
If you happen to download the online version and have decided you would
like you very own hard copy, please shoot me a request and we'll place
an additional order, in time for TCR.
Mucho gracias and have a safe and happy Memorial Day and thank a
veteran!
Mark
From: Carl Kunath [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:51 PM
To: TexasCavers
Subject: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
Greetings Texas cavers!
In the midst of numerous and sometimes tedious postings about Raptures,
Maya calendars, NaturFests, Facebook, and others of a similar nature,
permit me to interject an item directly on topic and of interest to most
readers of this list serve:
The special 50th Anniversary issue of the Texas Caver is now available!
Printed copies have been delivered to Texas and should be distributed in
the very near future.
Meanwhile, the digital version has been posted to the TSA website in the
Member's Area. Go to
http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html and use your member login.
In this instance, you have a choice of three versions, differing only in
the size of the file.
The smallest version is rather heavily compressed and the graphics are
consequently of somewhat lower quality. However, if you're not fussy
about quality or if you have a slower Internet connection or limited
disk space, this may be your choice.
The medium version is about what you are used to seeing posted for such
things and will be adequate for most readers.
The largest version (this is what was used for the printed copies) is of
substantially higher quality and will produce a very high quality
viewing experience and an excellent quality paper copy if you have a
good printer.
This was a major project and I thank all those who made the effort to
contribute toward the success of this publication.
Good caving and better days ahead!
===Carl Kunath
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Carl and Jerry,
Nice job on the 50th Anniversary Caver! I really have to
wonder about the selection criteria for the 25 most influential
cavers that you picked for the back cover, however. Any such list is
certainly a risky venture, as you pointed out, but how could you omit
Bill Steele and Bill Stone, both of whom have been at it for over 40
years and still going strong? It hardly seems fair.
Mark Minton
At 04:50 PM 5/24/2011, Carl Kunath wrote:
Greetings Texas cavers!
In the midst of numerous and sometimes tedious postings about
Raptures, Maya calendars, NaturFests, Facebook, and others of a
similar nature, permit me to interject an item directly on topic and
of interest to most readers of this list serve:
The special 50th Anniversary issue of the Texas Caver is now available!
Printed copies have been delivered to Texas and should be
distributed in the very near future.
Meanwhile, the digital version has been posted to the TSA website in
the Member's Area. Go to
http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html and use your member login.
In this instance, you have a choice of three versions, differing
only in the size of the file.
The smallest version is rather heavily compressed and the graphics
are consequently of somewhat lower quality. However, if you're not
fussy about quality or if you have a slower Internet connection or
limited disk space, this may be your choice.
The medium version is about what you are used to seeing posted for
such things and will be adequate for most readers.
The largest version (this is what was used for the printed copies)
is of substantially higher quality and will produce a very high
quality viewing experience and an excellent quality paper copy if
you have a good printer.
This was a major project and I thank all those who made the effort
to contribute toward the success of this publication.
Good caving and better days ahead!
===Carl Kunath
Please reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but when I go to the Texas Caver Online
section of the Member's area, the latest issue I see is 2011 Quarter 1. Where
is the 50th Anniversary issue online?
Randy Baker
Bexar Grotto webmaster
________________________________
From: Carl Kunath <[email protected]>
To: TexasCavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 3:50:53 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
Greetings Texas cavers!
In the midst of numerous and sometimes tedious postings about Raptures, Maya
calendars, NaturFests, Facebook, and others of a similar nature, permit me to
interject an item directly on topic and of interest to most readers of this
list
serve:
The special 50th Anniversary issue of the Texas Caver is now available!
Printed copies have been delivered to Texas and should be distributed in the
very near future.
Meanwhile, the digital version has been posted to the TSA website in the
Member's Area. Go to
http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html and use your member login.
In this instance, you have a choice of three versions, differing only in the
size of the file.
The smallest version is rather heavily compressed and the graphics are
consequently of somewhat lower quality. However, if you're not fussy about
quality or if you have a slower Internet connection or limited disk space, this
may be your choice.
The medium version is about what you are used to seeing posted for such things
and will be adequate for most readers.
The largest version (this is what was used for the printed copies) is of
substantially higher quality and will produce a very high quality viewing
experience and an excellent quality paper copy if you have a good printer.
This was a major project and I thank all those who made the effort to
contribute
toward the success of this publication.
Good caving and better days ahead!
===Carl Kunath
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Never mind, I found it. (duh!)
Randy Baker
Bexar Grotto webmaster
________________________________
From: Randy Baker <[email protected]>
To: TexasCavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 10:53:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but when I go to the Texas Caver Online
section of the Member's area, the latest issue I see is 2011 Quarter 1. Where
is the 50th Anniversary issue online?
Randy Baker
Bexar Grotto webmaster
________________________________
From: Carl Kunath <[email protected]>
To: TexasCavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 3:50:53 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
Greetings Texas cavers!
In the midst of numerous and sometimes tedious postings about Raptures, Maya
calendars, NaturFests, Facebook, and others of a similar nature, permit me to
interject an item directly on topic and of interest to most readers of this
list
serve:
The special 50th Anniversary issue of the Texas Caver is now available!
Printed copies have been delivered to Texas and should be distributed in the
very near future.
Meanwhile, the digital version has been posted to the TSA website in the
Member's Area. Go to
http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html and use your member login.
In this instance, you have a choice of three versions, differing only in the
size of the file.
The smallest version is rather heavily compressed and the graphics are
consequently of somewhat lower quality. However, if you're not fussy about
quality or if you have a slower Internet connection or limited disk space, this
may be your choice.
The medium version is about what you are used to seeing posted for such things
and will be adequate for most readers.
The largest version (this is what was used for the printed copies) is of
substantially higher quality and will produce a very high quality viewing
experience and an excellent quality paper copy if you have a good printer.
This was a major project and I thank all those who made the effort to
contribute
toward the success of this publication.
Good caving and better days ahead!
===Carl Kunath
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Nice! I "LIKE", in the real sense, receiving ACTUAL caving "news" about ACTUAL
caving in the mail.....as opposed to electronic pseudo "caving" news about
pseudo "caving" events that have nothing to do with caving except that a Caver,
pseudo Caver or two attended.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2011, at 3:50 PM, "Carl Kunath" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings Texas cavers!
>
> In the midst of numerous and sometimes tedious postings about Raptures, Maya
> calendars, NaturFests, Facebook, and others of a similar nature, permit me to
> interject an item directly on topic and of interest to most readers of this
> list serve:
>
>
> The special 50th Anniversary issue of the Texas Caver is now available!
>
> Printed copies have been delivered to Texas and should be distributed in the
> very near future.
>
> Meanwhile, the digital version has been posted to the TSA website in the
> Member's Area. Go to
> http://www.cavetexas.org/index.html and use your member login.
>
> In this instance, you have a choice of three versions, differing only in the
> size of the file.
>
> The smallest version is rather heavily compressed and the graphics are
> consequently of somewhat lower quality. However, if you're not fussy about
> quality or if you have a slower Internet connection or limited disk space,
> this may be your choice.
>
> The medium version is about what you are used to seeing posted for such
> things and will be adequate for most readers.
>
> The largest version (this is what was used for the printed copies) is of
> substantially higher quality and will produce a very high quality viewing
> experience and an excellent quality paper copy if you have a good printer.
>
> This was a major project and I thank all those who made the effort to
> contribute toward the success of this publication.
>
> Good caving and better days ahead!
>
> ===Carl Kunath
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I would suggest that we all start playing nice and quit dog piling, David
Locklear.
All in favor?
Mark
From: John Brooks [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:47 AM
To: Carl Kunath
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
Nice! I "LIKE", in the real sense, receiving ACTUAL caving "news" about ACTUAL
caving in the mail.....as opposed to electronic pseudo "caving" news about
pseudo "caving" events that have nothing to do with caving except that a Caver,
pseudo Caver or two attended.
Sent from my iPhone
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I, havent we learnd yet that if you donmt have something nice or pisitive to
say about someone than its best not to say anything at all. Personally i dont
even know David, But i still dont enjoy reading the negitive things ppl have to
say about him. just leave it alone! If you dont want to read his posts than
just delete thim. its not hard folks.
best wishes to all
Galen P. Falgout
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Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:02:50 pm
To: "John Brooks" <[email protected]>,"Carl Kunath"
<[email protected]>
Cc: "TexasCavers" <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
I would suggest that we all start playing nice and quit dog piling, David
Locklear.
All in favor?
Mark
From: John Brooks [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:47 AM
To: Carl Kunath
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
Nice! I "LIKE", in the real sense, receiving ACTUAL caving "news" about ACTUAL
caving in the mail.....as opposed to electronic pseudo "caving" news about
pseudo "caving" events that have nothing to do with caving except that a Caver,
pseudo Caver or two attended.
Sent from my iPhone
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I disagree with some of the things David does and the way he does them. The
same can be said of any of us. While cavers are free to criticize, I suggest we
do so privately, constructively, and directly to the person involved, not on
CaveTex.
Also, let’s not lose sight of the actual contributions made by those we
criticize. I’ve watched David work his butt off helping at caving events. He
has organized his own event, primarily for cavers, which I know many cavers
have enjoyed. While some of his CaveTex postings are off topic and I believe
are inappropriate for CaveTex, his postings on lights, cave-related websites,
and other cave-related information, are appropriate and appreciated by many.
I am constantly impressed with the generosity of cavers. We have bought Punkin
and Deep, helped countless cave owners, and have given hundreds of
presentations and led hundreds of trips for non-caving groups. Let’s show that
generosity for one of our own by publicly praising when warranted and
criticizing constructively and privately when needed.
George
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:03
To: John Brooks; Carl Kunath
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 50th Anniversary CAVER now available.
I would suggest that we all start playing nice and quit dog piling, David
Locklear.
All in favor?
Mark
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Amen!
Mark
From: Mallory Mayeux [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:56 PM
To: David
Cc: Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: Just an experiment
The major problem I personally have with cavetex is that very few people
actually post invitations to trips!
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I'm not facebook savvy, but maybe there is a compromise here: Can you make
a Cavetex fan page, and in the fan page description just place information
about what cavetex is about, and how to join the listserve? I think you
could also post some caving event photos as a marketting tool.
I am "young" and I avoid facebook because of its constant and pointless life
updates of "friends" I haven't talked to in a decade. But I agree David,
this is how a lot of people search for things. The three top search engines
are, in order: Google, Youtube, Facebook.
My $.02
-B
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Amen!
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> Mark
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> *From:* Mallory Mayeux [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:56 PM
> *To:* David
> *Cc:* Cavers Texas
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Re: Just an experiment
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> The major problem I personally have with cavetex is that very few people
> actually post invitations to trips!
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--
Brian Riordan
979-218-8009 (Mobile)
[email protected]
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(From the SWR list) There is a so-so article on caves and
caving in the U. S. at
<http://www.americanprofile.com/articles/cave-exploration-history-america/>.
You might want to mute the sound because of the obnoxious commercial
that plays every time you go to a new page.
Mark Minton
Please reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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