texascavers Digest 12 Jun 2011 19:24:18 -0000 Issue 1331
Topics (messages 18019 through 18021):
Re: Environmental Organizations and Endangered Species
18019 by: Fritz Holt
Re: new border law
18020 by: Chris Vreeland
tourist cars in Mexico
18021 by: Mixon Bill
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Mark,
I started not to read this but am glad I did. It is most informative. Ted
Williams article is a real eye opener. For my adult life I have been an
anti-litter extremist and conservationist because I love the outdoors and this
beautiful planet (especially Texas) on which we are privileged to live.
However, some environmental laws don't always seem to make sense such as the
recent alleged lizard situation in the four or five northwest Texas counties.
It is quite evident that the CBD and other such "environmental" organizations'
primary contribution is to the enhancement of their own financial resources.
This seems to be a case of double dipping. They collect dues and contributions
from their members and supporters and then steal from all US taxpayers with
their scheme of suing the federal agencies. The information in the article
shows that CBD is engaged in premeditated theft against a defenseless
department of the federal government (the taxpayers). I seldom defend our
government's policies due to the out of control spending, waste and corruption,
but in this case, laws need to be enacted or rules changed to protect the
government (us) from this abuse by the parties involved. Thanks for bringing
this to our attention.
Fritz
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From: Mark Minton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [Texascavers] Environmental Organizations and Endangered Species
(Paraphrased from TAGNet) Here are a couple of articles
detailing how the Center for Biological Diversity and other extreme
environmental groups make a business out of suing the government over
environmental issues, often overwhelming their ability to
respond. CBD has been in the caver news recently because they want
all caves to be closed to protect bats from WNS, which of course
wouldn't happen even if the caves were closed because most
transmission is between the bats themselves.
<http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20110602/COLUMNS/110609990/1078&ParentProfile=1055>
<http://tucsoncitizen.com/view-from-baja-arizona/2011/05/16/legislation-to-stop-litigation-abuse-by-litigious-environmental-groups/>
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For a much more considered approach to WNS, check out the
Defenders of Wildlife. This week they are highlighting the
endangered Indiana bat on their
blog: <http://www.defendersblog.org/tag/clwe/>. Last fall they had
an article on WNS and how it is being
combatted:
<http://www.defenders.org/newsroom/defenders_magazine/fall_2010/flying_in_the_dark.php>.
Mark Minton
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I'm really, really sad that I don't think about driving into Mexico
any more. Did so pretty regularly from '84 to '04, and I miss it
something turrble.
On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Tim Stich wrote:
So glad I don't even think about driving to Mexico anymore.
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I'm not sure that the alleged recent rule about deposits on cars taken
into Mexico is anything new. The purpose of using a credit card to pay
for the car permit has always been to allow the Mexican government to
charge to it a fee if the car is left in Mexico. A cash bond was only
required if you didn't have a recognized credit card. I don't know
whether that actually ever happened. The rule apparently also is that
you have to turn in your vehicle papers and leave the country at the
same point you entered it, but I've never heard of that being
enforced. See
http://portal.sre.gob.mx/was_eng/index.php?option=displaypage&Itemid=62&op=page&SubMenu
Of course, whether the Mexican Embassy knows what it's talking about
may be dubious.
--Mixon
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