>> Don't forget those vessels completely encompassed by formations to the point 
>> they were really no longer visible in the column, except where looters 
>> hammered away to expose them. 
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -Don
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:25 PM, "Allan B. Cobb" <a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In Guatemala, I have seen calcite almost completely covering flagging tape 
>>> that we left surveying the year before. I have seen stalagmites about 50 cm 
>>> tall growing out of Maya vessels that are a little more than a thousand 
>>> years old. I have seen photos of one almost a meter high growing out of a 
>>> 1000 year old Maya  vessel. The growth rate of speleothems is highly 
>>> variable.
>>>  
>>> Allan
>>>  
>>> From: Neal Hines
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:33 AM
>>> To: nealahi...@gmail.com
>>> Cc: Texas Cavers
>>> Subject: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)
>>>  
>>> This morning I read a geochemistry text on carbonate mineralization that 
>>> gave an example of how much stalactites might grow in one year: 0.19 
>>> mm/year. It's a recent book (Merkel et al. Groundwater Geochemistry 2008).
>>> Assumptions: partial pressure CO2 of 3% (charged up from soils) degassing 
>>> to 0.03% (by volume; atmospheric level), 100L of water dripping from the 
>>> ceiling, and the ceiling covered by 15% stalactites.
>>> Cavers all know this growth varies by quite a bit, but this might serve as 
>>> a rough upper end growth rate. So, within a caver's life of 70 years, you 
>>> could see a formation grow by over 1 cm! Lending truth to the observation 
>>> I've heard of some cavers that, "this passage has shifted since I was here 
>>> last." Sodastraws can grow even faster I believe & I'm sure people will 
>>> have  opinions on that.
>>> Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst 
>>> landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of 
>>> questions and very interested participants.
>>> -Neal Hines
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  

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