There may be no hibernating bats now in CaCa, but it absolutely does not
rule out the use of the cave by other species who do hibernate. There are a
number of caves in the Guads where bats will do a stopover for one or a few
nights, despite their roosting in another cave. And in at least one
instance, a nursery colony exists in one Guad cave while the same bats
hibernate in another one.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: William Tucker
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:33 PM
To: s...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media
There is a colony of Fringed Myotis of approximately that size that hang
around near Lake of the Clouds at the back of Left Hand Tunnel - the deepest
known part of the cave. Though a hibernating species, they are there in the
summer months and are not hibernating. Cave Myotis can also be found there
though I know of no significant colonies beyond these and the Freetails in
Bat Cave. Other species are known to use the cave but I know of no other
significant groups.
William
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Evatt
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:34 PM
To: wnsliai...@caves.org ; Kenneth Ingham
Cc: s...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media
It is my understanding that there used to be, perhaps still is, a small
hibernating colony in Carlsbad Cavern. Species I'm not sure of, but numbers
ranged from 150 to under 300. Enough of them (>30) to qualify for BLM's
closure list. Since CaCa is managed by NPS, and since they gain gobs of
federal revenue from keeping CACa open, it is more a political issue than a
biological disaster prevention issue.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: wnsliai...@caves.org
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:26 AM
To: Kenneth Ingham
Cc: s...@caver.net
Subject: Re: [SWR] WNS meeting in the media
The more I stare at that paragraph, the more I think it's a general
statement about show caves. I've heard owners of some of them
complain about the bad publicity over cave closures and the public
thinking they are closed, calling the cave and asking if they're open,
or worse, calling the cave and asking them why they're still open.
Jen is correct about the Brazilian freetails and Carlsbad, being
migrators, but I know there are other bat species that use the cave -
down in the Big Room area. Either way, I doubt the microclimate
conditions are conducive to WNS.
And, like Mammoth Cave National Park, I sincerely doubt the Park
Service would close the cave anyway. That would basically kill the
Park, and certainly the hue and cry from the businesses in White City
would be loud.
Peter
Quoting Kenneth Ingham <ing...@i-pi.com>:
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Their last paragraph reads:
Experts said white-nose syndrome has hurt cave in the East
that use bats as tourist attractions. They said it could
have a similar effect on Carlsbad Caverns if the disease
reaches New Mexico.
It sounds like they are referring to the main cave at Carlsbad Caverns
National Park.
Kenneth
On 02/07/2013 09:41 AM, wnsliai...@caves.org wrote:
Really. That last statement puzzled me. What cave are they
talking about?
Peter
Quoting Kenneth Ingham <ing...@i-pi.com>:
I cannot figure how they got their last paragraph (the one Jen
complained about) from anything anybody said at the meeting last
night.
I tried to leave a comment on their web page, but they only accept
comments from facebook users (I appear to be one of the only people
in the world who does not use it). Maybe others can leave a useful
comment.
Kenneth
On 02/06/2013 09:47 AM, Lee H. Skinner wrote:
KOAT (Channel 7) had a brief story about the BLM WNS meeting
last night:
http://tinyurl.com/bzt9kso
Lee Skinner
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