texascavers Digest 20 May 2013 11:26:02 -0000 Issue 1759

Topics (messages 21792 through 21806):

Re: Fish email?
        21792 by: Heather Tucek
        21793 by: Rahul Bhandari
        21794 by: Nico Escamilla
        21796 by: Louise Power
        21798 by: Justin Haynes
        21799 by: Mark Minton
        21800 by: Phil Winkler
        21801 by: Mark Minton
        21802 by: Preston Forsythe
        21804 by: Mimi Jasek

Anyone going to Kiwi Sink ?
        21795 by: David

Oxbow
        21797 by: Preston Forsythe

KIWI SINK Dig
        21803 by: Gill Edigar
        21805 by: Preston Forsythe
        21806 by: Andy Gluesenkamp

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Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in
playing along.. here's the email he sent:


"
Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in
Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall,
Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is
called Grutas de Bustamante
The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one is
a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the
Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is
walking distance from the House.
The price is $175,000,00 USD
If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
Tank you
Pedro F Cantu
956-215-1138"


On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:

> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his
> house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
>
>
>
> --
> *Go find out!*
> -Heather Tuček
> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
> trog...@cavechat.org
>



-- 
*Go find out!*
-Heather Tuček
UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
NSS 59660
(512) 773-1348
trog...@cavechat.org

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175,000 sounds cheap, but if its older house, in a small town far away from
cities, sounds like the right amount.
On May 18, 2013 6:45 PM, "Heather Tucek" <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:

> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in
> playing along.. here's the email he sent:
>
>
> "
> Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in
> Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall,
> Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is
> called Grutas de Bustamante
> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one
> is a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the
> Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is
> walking distance from the House.
> The price is $175,000,00 USD
> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
> Tank you
> Pedro F Cantu
> 956-215-1138"
>
>
> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his
>> house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Go find out!*
>> -Heather Tuček
>> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
>> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
>> NSS 59660
>> (512) 773-1348
>> trog...@cavechat.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Go find out!*
> -Heather Tuček
> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
> trog...@cavechat.org
>

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That is not ridiculously cheap for a house in Mexico. New houses in
Monterrey sell for about 100k give or take a few.  Last year my family
bought a house with 43 acres for 35k in Lampazos the town next to
Bustamante to the north. Just sayin

It might not be a scam and if someone is interested in forking up such
amount of money I'm willing to go and find out if its true or not



El sábado, 18 de mayo de 2013, Heather Tucek escribió:

> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in
> playing along.. here's the email he sent:
>
>
> "
> Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in
> Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall,
> Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is
> called Grutas de Bustamante
> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one
> is a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the
> Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is
> walking distance from the House.
> The price is $175,000,00 USD
> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
> Tank you
> Pedro F Cantu
> 956-215-1138"
>
>
> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org<javascript:_e({}, 
> 'cvml', 'trog...@cavechat.org');>
> > wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his
>> house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Go find out!*
>> -Heather Tuček
>> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
>> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
>> NSS 59660
>> (512) 773-1348
>> trog...@cavechat.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'trog...@cavechat.org');>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Go find out!*
> -Heather Tuček
> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
> trog...@cavechat.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'trog...@cavechat.org');>
>

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If it looks like a duck and it waddles like a duck, it's a duck. If it looks to 
be too good to be true, it probably is. I get crap like this all the time, but 
I know where "delete" is on my screen. DON'T BITE ON IT.
Just my 2 cents. (Did you know there's no "cents" symbol on a keyboard anymore? 
My guess is there hasn't been one in years and I just didn't notice.)

List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 18:45:50 -0500
From: trog...@cavechat.org
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Fish email?

Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in playing 
along.. here's the email he sent:


"

Dear
 Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in 
Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall,
 Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, 
it is called Grutas de BustamanteThe House has aprox 3500 sq 
ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one is a Cantina with a 
Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the Cantina, has 4 
bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is walking distance
 from the House. The price is $175,000,00 USDIf you all are interested I can 
send you
 Pictures and legal descriptionTank youPedro F Cantu956-215-1138"


On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:

Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his house 
near Bustamante for stupid cheap? 


-- 
Go find out!

-Heather Tuček
UT Grotto, DFW Grotto

TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
NSS 59660
(512) 773-1348
trog...@cavechat.org



-- 
Go find out!
-Heather Tuček
UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
NSS 59660
(512) 773-1348
trog...@cavechat.org
                                          

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However, biting can be fun.  My Dad has gotten some Nigerian spammers to
the point where they start writing him frustrated emails.

I think it couldn't hurt to ask questions..  Especially if Nico can
verify.  All it takes is an address or location, right?

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Louise Power <power_lou...@hotmail.com>wrote:

> If it looks like a duck and it waddles like a duck, it's a duck. If it
> looks to be too good to be true, it probably is. I get crap like this all
> the time, but I know where "delete" is on my screen. DON'T BITE ON IT.
>
> Just my 2 cents. (Did you know there's no "cents" symbol on a keyboard
> anymore? My guess is there hasn't been one in years and I just didn't
> notice.)
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 18:45:50 -0500
> From: trog...@cavechat.org
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Fish email?
>
>
> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in
> playing along.. here's the email he sent:
>
>
> "
> Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in
> Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall,
> Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is
> called Grutas de Bustamante
> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one
> is a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the
> Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is
> walking distance from the House.
> The price is $175,000,00 USD
> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
> Tank you
> Pedro F Cantu
> 956-215-1138"
>
>
> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his
> house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
>
>
>
> --
> *Go find out!*
> -Heather Tuček
> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
> trog...@cavechat.org
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Go find out!*
> -Heather Tuček
> UT Grotto, DFW Grotto
> TSA Secretary & Membership Chair
> NSS 59660
> (512) 773-1348
> trog...@cavechat.org
>

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--- Begin Message --- The only thing that seems a little suspicious to me is that he says the cave is within walking distance of the house, which is purported to be on the main square in Bustamante. While it is certainly possible to walk that far, I don't think most people would consider that "walking distance".

Mark

At 08:23 PM 5/18/2013, Nico Escamilla wrote:
That is not ridiculously cheap for a house in Mexico. New houses in Monterrey sell for about 100k give or take a few. Â Last year my family bought a house with 43 acres for 35k in Lampazos the town next to Bustamante to the north. Just sayin

It might not be a scam and if someone is interested in forking up such amount of money I'm willing to go and find out if its true or not

El sábado, 18 de mayo de 2013, Heather Tucek escribió:
Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in playing along.. here's the email he sent:

"Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall, Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is called Grutas de Bustamante The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one is a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is walking distance from the House.
The price is $175,000,00 USD
If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
Tank you
Pedro F Cantu
956-215-1138"

On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?

Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
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And isn't the named Grutas la Palmito (or something like that?)  rather then 
Bustamante?

Phil
On May 19, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Mark Minton wrote:

>        The only thing that seems a little suspicious to me is that he says 
> the cave is within walking distance of the house, which is purported to be on 
> the main square in Bustamante.  While it is certainly possible to walk that 
> far, I don't think most people would consider that "walking distance".
> 
> Mark
> 
> At 08:23 PM 5/18/2013, Nico Escamilla wrote:
>> That is not ridiculously cheap for a house in Mexico. New houses in 
>> Monterrey sell for about 100k give or take a few. Â Last year my family 
>> bought a house with 43 acres for 35k in Lampazos the town next to Bustamante 
>> to the north. Just sayin
>> 
>> It might not be a scam and if someone is interested in forking up such 
>> amount of money I'm willing to go and find out if its true or not
>> 
>> El sábado, 18 de mayo de 2013, Heather Tucek escribió:
>> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in playing 
>> along.. here's the email he sent:
>> 
>> "Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in 
>> Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall, 
>> Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is 
>> called Grutas de Bustamante
>> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one is 
>> a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the 
>> Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is 
>> walking distance from the House.
>> The price is $175,000,00 USD
>> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
>> Tank you
>> Pedro F Cantu
>> 956-215-1138"
>> 
>> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
>> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his 
>> house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
> 
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--- Begin Message --- Gruta del Palmito was the original name, but when the cave was commercialized they changed it to Grutas de Bustamante. Maybe that was so people would know where it was.

Mark

At 04:51 PM 5/19/2013, Phil Winkler wrote:
And isn't the named Grutas la Palmito (or something like that?) rather then Bustamante?

Phil
On May 19, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Mark Minton wrote:

> The only thing that seems a little suspicious to me is that he says the cave is within walking distance of the house, which is purported to be on the main square in Bustamante. While it is certainly possible to walk that far, I don't think most people would consider that "walking distance".
>
> Mark
>
> At 08:23 PM 5/18/2013, Nico Escamilla wrote:
>> That is not ridiculously cheap for a house in Mexico. New houses in Monterrey sell for about 100k give or take a few. Â Last year my family bought a house with 43 acres for 35k in Lampazos the town next to Bustamante to the north. Just sayin
>>
>> It might not be a scam and if someone is interested in forking up such amount of money I'm willing to go and find out if its true or not
>>
>> El sábado, 18 de mayo de 2013, Heather Tucek escribió:
>> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in playing along.. here's the email he sent:
>>
>> "Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall, Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is called Grutas de Bustamante >> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one is a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is walking distance from the House.
>> The price is $175,000,00 USD
>> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
>> Tank you
>> Pedro F Cantu
>> 956-215-1138"
>>
>> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
>> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
>
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And, if you have not visited the cave and town recently I sure do recommend it. 
The week we spend there during the pre-congress field trip was tops a few years 
ago. In fact I could see spending sometime in the future in Bustamante, 
however, probably not in July-Sept.

Preston
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  From: Mark Minton 
  To: Phil Winkler 
  Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Fish email?


          Gruta del Palmito was the original name, but when the cave was 
commercialized they changed it to Grutas de Bustamante.  Maybe that was so 
people would know where it was.

  Mark

  At 04:51 PM 5/19/2013, Phil Winkler wrote:

    And isn't the named Grutas la Palmito (or something like that?)  rather 
then Bustamante?

    Phil
    On May 19, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Mark Minton wrote:

    >        The only thing that seems a little suspicious to me is that he 
says the cave is within walking distance of the house, which is purported to be 
on the main square in Bustamante.  While it is certainly possible to walk that 
far, I don't think most people would consider that "walking distance".
    > 
    > Mark
    > 
    > At 08:23 PM 5/18/2013, Nico Escamilla wrote:
    >> That is not ridiculously cheap for a house in Mexico. New houses in 
Monterrey sell for about 100k give or take a few. Â Last year my family bought 
a house with 43 acres for 35k in Lampazos the town next to Bustamante to the 
north. Just sayin
    >> 
    >> It might not be a scam and if someone is interested in forking up such 
amount of money I'm willing to go and find out if its true or not
    >> 
    >> El sábado, 18 de mayo de 2013, Heather Tucek escribió:
    >> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in 
playing along.. here's the email he sent:
    >> 
    >> "Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in 
Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall, 
Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is 
called Grutas de Bustamante
    >> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one 
is a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the 
Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is walking 
distance from the House.
    >> The price is $175,000,00 USD
    >> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
    >> Tank you
    >> Pedro F Cantu
    >> 956-215-1138"
    >> 
    >> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
    >> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his 
house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
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Hmmm, just seeing this, but if the man is "fishing", I hope he reels in enough 
to feed his family:) If he is "phishing" though, then I wish him no luck at all!

Mimi

Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Mark Minton <mmin...@caver.net> wrote:

>        The only thing that seems a little suspicious to me is that he says 
> the cave is within walking distance of the house, which is purported to be on 
> the main square in Bustamante.  While it is certainly possible to walk that 
> far, I don't think most people would consider that "walking distance".
> 
> Mark
> 
> At 08:23 PM 5/18/2013, Nico Escamilla wrote:
>> That is not ridiculously cheap for a house in Mexico. New houses in 
>> Monterrey sell for about 100k give or take a few. Â Last year my family 
>> bought a house with 43 acres for 35k in Lampazos the town next to Bustamante 
>> to the north. Just sayin
>> 
>> It might not be a scam and if someone is interested in forking up such 
>> amount of money I'm willing to go and find out if its true or not
>> 
>> El sábado, 18 de mayo de 2013, Heather Tucek escribió:
>> Somehow I am pretty sure it's a scam, but if anyone is interested in playing 
>> along.. here's the email he sent:
>> 
>> "Dear Heather, my name is Pedro Cantu and I have a House for sale in 
>> Buastamante, Mexico and is located in the main Plaza near the City Hall, 
>> Bustamante having one of the largest Natural Cave in Northern Mexico, it is 
>> called Grutas de Bustamante
>> The House has aprox 3500 sq ft plus two large rooms out in the yard, one is 
>> a Cantina with a Chimeney, the house is furnished modestly including the 
>> Cantina, has 4 bedrooms and 2 full bathrooms with showers, the Cave is 
>> walking distance from the House.
>> The price is $175,000,00 USD
>> If you all are interested I can send you Pictures and legal description
>> Tank you
>> Pedro F Cantu
>> 956-215-1138"
>> 
>> On 18 May 2013 17:32, Heather Tucek <trog...@cavechat.org> wrote:
>> Has anyone else gotten an email from "Pedro Garcia", trying to sell his 
>> house near Bustamante for stupid cheap?
> 
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It is late Saturday night, and I am still at home in Arcola.      I am
procrastinating about the road-trip, but I am certain I am going to get in
the car before midnight.

I will hopefully arrive at Ernie Garza's about 3 in the morning, Sunday,
and just plop down a bedroll in the yard.

It is going to be hot, but I really do want to dig in Kiwi Sink, and do not
have any
legitimate excuse for not going.

I don't have any idea who all plans to dig.      I can dig late Sunday, as
I don't have to rush back.

David Locklear
281-995-8487 ( text-line )

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It is ironic that the horse Oxbow won the Preakness today in Maryland. I am 
sure after our discussion a week or so ago that the horse was  named for the 
cut-around Oxbow passage which had been painted by Thomas Cole in the 
1830's......It is a slow Sat. evening in Outer Browder, but the race was pretty 
exciting.

Preston

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KIWI SINK Dig Report--19 May 2013--Pretty nice day today with but 6 diggers
in existence. The place was a bit crowded with 7 barrels waiting to be
filled and lots of back fill, soaked by the recent rain, waiting to be dug.
Having a short crew was pretty much a good thing as we were a bit crowded
and there being a shortage of places to put the barrels. We filled 7
barrels by noon and undermined and isolated a few rocks that would need
hoisting. As soon as the barrels were all loaded we started hauling them
out of the pit and to the dumping grounds. That job was finished by a
little after one o'clock and we set back to digging and loading barrels
again. Come 3:30 and we had 4 barrels and several more rocks, some weighing
4 or 5 hundred pounds, waiting in line to be hoisted. Some of were working
in the sun on a hot day (low '90s) and were becoming weary. We set about to
hoisting some barrels to provide space to dig floor material away but by
the time that had been done most of the people left were ready to quit. So
we did.
The winch got wanky on the last couple of lifts. Need to suss out the
cause.
Totals fore the day: 11 barrels and 3 rocks, 2 being relatively large.

Those who attended:
Don Broussard
Gill Ediger
Ernie Garza
Amdy Gluesenkamp
David Locklear
John Schneider

Visitors were:
Bob West
Cindy Chamberlin-West
Thanks to everyone for helping out.

--Ediger

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E-DIG-er that was an interesting Kiwi digging report with a lot of progress 
made.  Glad it was not too hot on a Sunday afternoon.

Is it possible to sometime attach a simple plan and profile map of the progress 
as it may be awhile before some of us can see Kiwi? Some of us "older" cave 
surveyors love our maps.

By the way I have already forgotten where the name Kiwi comes from?

Preston

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gill Edigar 
  To: Cavers Texas 
  Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:24 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] KIWI SINK Dig


  KIWI SINK Dig Report--19 May 2013--Pretty nice day today with but 6 diggers 
in existence. The place was a bit crowded with 7 barrels waiting to be filled 
and lots of back fill, soaked by the recent rain, waiting to be dug. Having a 
short crew was pretty much a good thing as we were a bit crowded and there 
being a shortage of places to put the barrels. We filled 7 barrels by noon and 
undermined and isolated a few rocks that would need hoisting. As soon as the 
barrels were all loaded we started hauling them out of the pit and to the 
dumping grounds. That job was finished by a little after one o'clock and we set 
back to digging and loading barrels again. Come 3:30 and we had 4 barrels and 
several more rocks, some weighing 4 or 5 hundred pounds, waiting in line to be 
hoisted. Some of were working in the sun on a hot day (low '90s) and were 
becoming weary. We set about to hoisting some barrels to provide space to dig 
floor material away but by the time that had been done most of the people left 
were ready to quit. So we did. 
  The winch got wanky on the last couple of lifts. Need to suss out the cause. 
  Totals fore the day: 11 barrels and 3 rocks, 2 being relatively large. 

  Those who attended:
  Don Broussard
  Gill Ediger
  Ernie Garza 
  Amdy Gluesenkamp 
  David Locklear 
  John Schneider

  Visitors were:
  Bob West 
  Cindy Chamberlin-West 
  Thanks to everyone for helping out.



  --Ediger

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The landowner is named Kiwi.  He said it is a childhood nickname but wouldn't 
elaborate.   Great guy!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 3:47 AM, "Preston Forsythe" <pns_...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> E-DIG-er that was an interesting Kiwi digging report with a lot of progress 
> made.  Glad it was not too hot on a Sunday afternoon.
>  
> Is it possible to sometime attach a simple plan and profile map of the 
> progress as it may be awhile before some of us can see Kiwi? Some of us 
> "older" cave surveyors love our maps.
>  
> By the way I have already forgotten where the name Kiwi comes from?
>  
> Preston
>  
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gill Edigar
> To: Cavers Texas
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:24 PM
> Subject: [Texascavers] KIWI SINK Dig
> 
> KIWI SINK Dig Report--19 May 2013--Pretty nice day today with but 6 diggers 
> in existence. The place was a bit crowded with 7 barrels waiting to be filled 
> and lots of back fill, soaked by the recent rain, waiting to be dug. Having a 
> short crew was pretty much a good thing as we were a bit crowded and there 
> being a shortage of places to put the barrels. We filled 7 barrels by noon 
> and undermined and isolated a few rocks that would need hoisting. As soon as 
> the barrels were all loaded we started hauling them out of the pit and to the 
> dumping grounds. That job was finished by a little after one o'clock and we 
> set back to digging and loading barrels again. Come 3:30 and we had 4 barrels 
> and several more rocks, some weighing 4 or 5 hundred pounds, waiting in line 
> to be hoisted. Some of were working in the sun on a hot day (low '90s) and 
> were becoming weary. We set about to hoisting some barrels to provide space 
> to dig floor material away but by the time that had been done most of the 
> people left were ready to quit. So we did. 
> The winch got wanky on the last couple of lifts. Need to suss out the cause. 
> Totals fore the day: 11 barrels and 3 rocks, 2 being relatively large. 
> 
> Those who attended:
> Don Broussard
> Gill Ediger
> Ernie Garza 
> Amdy Gluesenkamp 
> David Locklear 
> John Schneider
> 
> Visitors were:
> Bob West 
> Cindy Chamberlin-West 
> Thanks to everyone for helping out.
> 
> --Ediger

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