texascavers Digest 29 Oct 2012 11:57:57 -0000 Issue 1656
Topics (messages 20950 through 20956):
Re: New Projects: Bat Detective and Click to Cure
20950 by: jerryatkin.aol.com
20952 by: George D. Nincehelser
Bats and Bears address correction
20951 by: Louise Power
Deep Cave Survey Report
20953 by: Joe & Evelynn Mitchell
20954 by: Logan McNatt
20955 by: Marvin and Lisa
Longhorn Caverns Project Weekend, November 2nd thru 4th!- POSTPONED TILL
February 2013
20956 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
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> From: Zooniverse Team <t...@zooniverse.org>
> Date: October 25, 2012 1:55:46 PM CDT
> To: zoonive...@jiscmail.ac.uk
> Subject: New Projects: Bat Detective and Click to Cure
> Reply-To: Zooniverse Team <t...@zooniverse.org>
>
> Happy October!
>
> During September we launched a slew of new and updated projects, but we
> haven't finished yet. One project we're especially excited about is Bat
> Detective (http://www.batdetective.org) which takes you on a journey through
> the forests of Europe, hot on the trail of bats. All the data was recorded by
> volunteers and now we're asking for more volunteers (you!) to listen in and
> find those bats. Researchers will use your clicks to create new and improved
> software to help bat conservation around the world.
>
> Yesterday, another project began, and it might be the most important project
> we've ever done. Launched in collaboration with Cancer Research UK, Click to
> Cure (http://www.clicktocure.net) wants to use the power of the Zooniverse
> (again, that's you!) to speed up trials of new cancer treatments. By spending
> a few minutes looking at microscope images, and answering a few simple
> questions, you can assist in the effort to find cures for different cancers.
>
> We've got more to show you in 2012, so stayed turned to our Twitter feed
> @the_zooniverse or watch our homepage at zooniverse.org.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob and the Zooniverse Team
>
> PS We're looking for beta testers for two upcoming projects. If you'd like to
> help test a new wildlife project email t...@zooniverse.org with the subject
> line "Wildlife Beta". To help test a new space-based project set in a galaxy
> not so far, far away then make the subject line "Space Beta". We'll select a
> handful of volunteers and give them a sneak-peek at what's coming up next.
>
> PPS - You are receiving this email because you have taken part in one or more
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Interesting site, though the interface takes a while to understand.
Are there supposed to be bat calls somewhere in each sample to find? My
hearing isn't that great and I'm not sure if I'm missing a call or maybe
there's nothing to hear.
Thanks
George
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:55 PM, <jerryat...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Zooniverse Team <t...@zooniverse.org>
> *Date:* October 25, 2012 1:55:46 PM CDT
> *To:* <zoonive...@jiscmail.ac.uk>zoonive...@jiscmail.ac.uk
> *Subject:* *New Projects: Bat Detective and Click to Cure*
> *Reply-To:* Zooniverse Team <t...@zooniverse.org>
>
> Happy October!
>
> During September we launched a slew of new and updated projects, but we
> haven't finished yet. One project we're especially excited about is Bat
> Detective ( <http://www.batdetective.org>http://www.batdetective.org)
> which takes you on a journey through the forests of Europe, hot on the
> trail of bats. All the data was recorded by volunteers and now we're asking
> for more volunteers (you!) to listen in and find those bats. Researchers
> will use your clicks to create new and improved software to help bat
> conservation around the world.
>
> Yesterday, another project began, and it might be the most important
> project we've ever done. Launched in collaboration with Cancer Research UK,
> Click to Cure ( <http://www.clicktocure.net>http://www.clicktocure.net)
> wants to use the power of the Zooniverse (again, that's you!) to speed up
> trials of new cancer treatments. By spending a few minutes looking at
> microscope images, and answering a few simple questions, you can assist in
> the effort to find cures for different cancers.
>
> We've got more to show you in 2012, so stayed turned to our Twitter feed
> @the_zooniverse or watch our homepage at <http://zooniverse.org>
> zooniverse.org.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob and the Zooniverse Team
>
> PS We're looking for beta testers for two upcoming projects. If you'd like
> to help test a new wildlife project email <t...@zooniverse.org>
> t...@zooniverse.org with the subject line "Wildlife Beta". To help test a
> new space-based project set in a galaxy not so far, far away then make the
> subject line "Space Beta". We'll select a handful of volunteers and give
> them a sneak-peek at what's coming up next.
>
> PPS - You are receiving this email because you have taken part in one or
> more Zooniverse projects, such as Galaxy Zoo or Planet Hunters. To
> unsubscribe to these messages, visit
> <http://www.zooniverse.org/unsubscribe>www.zooniverse.org/unsubscribe. To
> manage your newsletter settings, visit
> <http://www.zooniverse.org/account/newsletters>
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>
>
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This is the address I meant to send:
http://www.bearstudy.org/website/research/daily-updates/1791-bears-and-bats-update-october-26-2012-.html
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This weekend was the most recent survey trip to TCMA's Deep Cave. A total of 19
people attended with 16 going underground. The trip was extremely productive
with 328 m surveyed. The cave blew past Punkin Cave, topped the 4 km threshold,
and even inched ahead of Spring Creek to become the 10th longest caves in Texas
with a new length of 4145.5 m.
Don Arburn lead a team with Pam Campbell, Ted Lee, and Joe Schaertl to the area
below the Helictite Room. They surveyed 10 stations for a total of 41.5 m. They
first rechecked a couple of previously surveyed pits in the area finding
several leads on one drop called "Mary's Pit". Their main survey from the south
end of the Helictite Room led them down into a new deep-going route which had a
number of unusual formations on the ceiling of shallow domes. They stopped only
10 m above the depth of the deepest known part of the cave with several leads
and including at least one going deeper still.
Bennett Lee lead a team with Steve Gutting and Mike Harris back to the KB
survey below the Entrance Room to explore some down-going leads. They surveyed
12 stations for 44.2 m. The discovered a sizable room they named "Popcorn
Heaven" and the first foot-deep standing pool of water to be found in the cave.
Ellie Watson lead a team with Galen Falgout and Wade McDaniel to pick up the P
survey below the West Chasm beyond the Crooked Broomstick Room. They surveyed
16 stations for 66.3 m. Initially they broke through a constriction into a new
room off of the previous end of the P-survey which continued for a number of
stations until it ended in a flowstone plug. Returning to the P survey, they
followed another lead which turned out to be Dickey's Coral Crawl from the
1960's map, eventually connecting it up to the main Western Rift. They then
checked several leads near the base of the climb to the Nutcracker Chimney,
finding one tight lead that continued, but ruling out other options.
I led a team with Jill Orr and Tom Rogers out to Metropolis at the west end of
the cave. We surveyed 19 station for 74.6 m. We worked on cleaning up the
previously unfinished sketch of Lower Metropolis and then surveyed up into
Upper Metropolis finding a Wall of Leads in one area. After continuing up and
topping out the room, we return to push one of the many leads and re-discovered
"Norm's Room" from the 1965 map of the cave. This room proved to be large and
very well decorated with a Butterscotch Waterfall, giant Butterscotch Sunday
formation, and Twin Totems. A couple of small leads led in a various directions
and another lead led down to a large walking corridor passage that continued.
Finally Marvin Miller lead a 14 hr marathon survey with Gerry Geletzke and Ryan
Monjaras to the Miller Time area. They surveyed an outstanding 31 stations for
102.1 m. Their survey uncovered an extensive new section of the cave that heads
to the southwest and eventually looped back under the Crooked Broomstick Room,
but at a much lower level than anything else known in the area. Among other
leads, they found a passage marked with a smoke inscription of "5-69", which
continued on for an estimated 100 m but has not yet been surveyed.
Surface support was provided by Jenni Arburn, Evelynn Mitchell, and Kayla
Mitchell who spent the day relaxing in the cool weather, carving pumpkins and
preparing a great dinner of spaghetti, salad and pies for the tired survey
teams to enjoy upon their return.
Joe Mitchell
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Joe and other Deep Cave survey team members,
Thanks for your very interesting trip report. What an impressive amount of
survey and discovery! Two sentences really intrigued me:
"...another lead led down to a large walking corridor passage that continued."
I assume you, Jill, and Tom didn't push this because you're saving it for the
next survey trip? If so, admirable self-control!
"Among other leads, they found a passage marked with a smoke inscription of "5-69", which continued on for an estimated 100 m but has not yet
been surveyed."
Marvin, Gerry, and Ryan had probably run out of time and energy on their 14 hr marathon trip to survey this. I just checked the Grotto trip
reports in 1969 issues of The Texas Caver but didn't see any mention of a Deep Cave trip in May by the Alamo, San Antonio, or A&I Grottos.
Numerous other grottos were very active during that time as well, and everyone used carbide lamps. I'm just curious who was in that passage in
May 1969.
Congratulations to all involved, and I think this trip report should be
published in the next Texas Caver!
Logan
On 10/28/2012 7:21 PM, Joe & Evelynn Mitchell wrote:
This weekend was the most recent survey trip to TCMA's Deep Cave. A total of 19
people attended with 16 going underground. The trip was extremely productive
with 328 m surveyed. The cave blew past Punkin Cave, topped the 4 km threshold,
and even inched ahead of Spring Creek to become the 10th longest caves in Texas
with a new length of 4145.5 m.
Don Arburn lead a team with Pam Campbell, Ted Lee, and Joe Schaertl to the area below the
Helictite Room. They surveyed 10 stations for a total of 41.5 m. They first rechecked a
couple of previously surveyed pits in the area finding several leads on one drop called
"Mary's Pit". Their main survey from the south end of the Helictite Room led
them down into a new deep-going route which had a number of unusual formations on the
ceiling of shallow domes. They stopped only 10 m above the depth of the deepest known
part of the cave with several leads and including at least one going deeper still.
Bennett Lee lead a team with Steve Gutting and Mike Harris back to the KB survey below
the Entrance Room to explore some down-going leads. They surveyed 12 stations for 44.2 m.
The discovered a sizable room they named "Popcorn Heaven" and the first
foot-deep standing pool of water to be found in the cave.
Ellie Watson lead a team with Galen Falgout and Wade McDaniel to pick up the P
survey below the West Chasm beyond the Crooked Broomstick Room. They surveyed
16 stations for 66.3 m. Initially they broke through a constriction into a new
room off of the previous end of the P-survey which continued for a number of
stations until it ended in a flowstone plug. Returning to the P survey, they
followed another lead which turned out to be Dickey's Coral Crawl from the
1960's map, eventually connecting it up to the main Western Rift. They then
checked several leads near the base of the climb to the Nutcracker Chimney,
finding one tight lead that continued, but ruling out other options.
I led a team with Jill Orr and Tom Rogers out to Metropolis at the west end of the cave.
We surveyed 19 station for 74.6 m. We worked on cleaning up the previously unfinished
sketch of Lower Metropolis and then surveyed up into Upper Metropolis finding a Wall of
Leads in one area. After continuing up and topping out the room, we return to push one of
the many leads and re-discovered "Norm's Room" from the 1965 map of the cave.
This room proved to be large and very well decorated with a Butterscotch Waterfall, giant
Butterscotch Sunday formation, and Twin Totems. A couple of small leads led in a various
directions and another lead led down to a large walking corridor passage that continued.
Finally Marvin Miller lead a 14 hr marathon survey with Gerry Geletzke and Ryan Monjaras
to the Miller Time area. They surveyed an outstanding 31 stations for 102.1 m. Their
survey uncovered an extensive new section of the cave that heads to the southwest and
eventually looped back under the Crooked Broomstick Room, but at a much lower level than
anything else known in the area. Among other leads, they found a passage marked with a
smoke inscription of "5-69", which continued on for an estimated 100 m but has
not yet been surveyed.
Surface support was provided by Jenni Arburn, Evelynn Mitchell, and Kayla
Mitchell who spent the day relaxing in the cool weather, carving pumpkins and
preparing a great dinner of spaghetti, salad and pies for the tired survey
teams to enjoy upon their return.
Joe Mitchell
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5/69:
Another interesting thing about this passage - which we are calling "Highway
69" - is that there was some significant blasting done to access a part of
the passage. The "5/69" inscription was written on a piece of blast shard.
Ryan discovered it sitting on a shelf in an alcove above the main passage.
It was not visible while traversing the passage. We tried to find the
passage by which these explorers had entered but couldn't find it. We are
pretty sure they didn't come in the way we did. However, after finding out
later that the passage sits under the Crooked Broomstick room, we probably
should have had our eyes on the ceiling for leads from above.
If anyone out there was on a blasting or exploration trip below the Crooked
Broomstick Room during that time frame it would be nice to hear from you.
Marvin
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From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:47 PM
To: Joe & Evelynn Mitchell
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Deep Cave Survey Report
Joe and other Deep Cave survey team members,
Thanks for your very interesting trip report. What an impressive amount of
survey and discovery! Two sentences really intrigued me:
"...another lead led down to a large walking corridor passage that
continued."
I assume you, Jill, and Tom didn't push this because you're saving it for
the next survey trip? If so, admirable self-control!
"Among other leads, they found a passage marked with a smoke inscription of
"5-69", which continued on for an estimated 100 m but has not yet been
surveyed."
Marvin, Gerry, and Ryan had probably run out of time and energy on their 14
hr marathon trip to survey this. I just checked the Grotto trip reports in
1969 issues of The Texas Caver but didn't see any mention of a Deep Cave
trip in May by the Alamo, San Antonio, or A&I Grottos.
Numerous other grottos were very active during that time as well, and
everyone used carbide lamps. I'm just curious who was in that passage in
May 1969.
Congratulations to all involved, and I think this trip report should be
published in the next Texas Caver!
Logan
On 10/28/2012 7:21 PM, Joe & Evelynn Mitchell wrote:
> This weekend was the most recent survey trip to TCMA's Deep Cave. A total
of 19 people attended with 16 going underground. The trip was extremely
productive with 328 m surveyed. The cave blew past Punkin Cave, topped the 4
km threshold, and even inched ahead of Spring Creek to become the 10th
longest caves in Texas with a new length of 4145.5 m.
>
> Don Arburn lead a team with Pam Campbell, Ted Lee, and Joe Schaertl to the
area below the Helictite Room. They surveyed 10 stations for a total of 41.5
m. They first rechecked a couple of previously surveyed pits in the area
finding several leads on one drop called "Mary's Pit". Their main survey
from the south end of the Helictite Room led them down into a new deep-going
route which had a number of unusual formations on the ceiling of shallow
domes. They stopped only 10 m above the depth of the deepest known part of
the cave with several leads and including at least one going deeper still.
>
> Bennett Lee lead a team with Steve Gutting and Mike Harris back to the KB
survey below the Entrance Room to explore some down-going leads. They
surveyed 12 stations for 44.2 m. The discovered a sizable room they named
"Popcorn Heaven" and the first foot-deep standing pool of water to be found
in the cave.
>
> Ellie Watson lead a team with Galen Falgout and Wade McDaniel to pick up
the P survey below the West Chasm beyond the Crooked Broomstick Room. They
surveyed 16 stations for 66.3 m. Initially they broke through a constriction
into a new room off of the previous end of the P-survey which continued for
a number of stations until it ended in a flowstone plug. Returning to the P
survey, they followed another lead which turned out to be Dickey's Coral
Crawl from the 1960's map, eventually connecting it up to the main Western
Rift. They then checked several leads near the base of the climb to the
Nutcracker Chimney, finding one tight lead that continued, but ruling out
other options.
>
> I led a team with Jill Orr and Tom Rogers out to Metropolis at the west
end of the cave. We surveyed 19 station for 74.6 m. We worked on cleaning up
the previously unfinished sketch of Lower Metropolis and then surveyed up
into Upper Metropolis finding a Wall of Leads in one area. After continuing
up and topping out the room, we return to push one of the many leads and
re-discovered "Norm's Room" from the 1965 map of the cave. This room proved
to be large and very well decorated with a Butterscotch Waterfall, giant
Butterscotch Sunday formation, and Twin Totems. A couple of small leads led
in a various directions and another lead led down to a large walking
corridor passage that continued.
>
> Finally Marvin Miller lead a 14 hr marathon survey with Gerry Geletzke and
Ryan Monjaras to the Miller Time area. They surveyed an outstanding 31
stations for 102.1 m. Their survey uncovered an extensive new section of the
cave that heads to the southwest and eventually looped back under the
Crooked Broomstick Room, but at a much lower level than anything else known
in the area. Among other leads, they found a passage marked with a smoke
inscription of "5-69", which continued on for an estimated 100 m but has not
yet been surveyed.
>
> Surface support was provided by Jenni Arburn, Evelynn Mitchell, and Kayla
Mitchell who spent the day relaxing in the cool weather, carving pumpkins
and preparing a great dinner of spaghetti, salad and pies for the tired
survey teams to enjoy upon their return.
>
> Joe Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
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Good morning, y'all!
After discussions with folks at TPWD Friday, and a future meeting the
week of November 5th on current and future projects and
priority/scheduling, I have come to the conclusion that it would be best
to hold off on the Longhorn Project till 2013.
Complicating project dates, much to my delight, is the fact that our
family is about to be blessed with the birth of two granddaughters and
future cavers around the first of December and around the Christmas
timeframe.
(If you think I'm going to miss the birth of these two little cuties for
a caving project, you're plumb loco!).
Thanks for your current interest and past participation in this fun and
productive project in 2012! TPWD and the folks at LCSP sincerely
appreciate it!
Give me a holler if you'd like more details.
Thanks!
Mark
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