I know all this, but there are just times when I get tired of people being so uncivil. What does it cost to say "Thanks for the info" or just ignoring it altogether instead of responding with six or eight paragraphs of such "let me tell you how much more I know than you" rhetoric (you idiot--implied if not said right out).
From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:50:57 -0800 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RFID chips But Bill is just doing his bit to disperse the FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) that “they” use to control the masses! Now if you *want* to be controlled, or know that Bill writes these posts and you don’t care, then go ahead and ignore the posts. Almost everything technology related bears some risk – some systems are so complicated that one can’t test all possible scenarios, or if one made it totally fool proof then almost no one could use it (grin). Calculated risk is the way forward… if someone comes up to you in an airport and places something that could be a card reader close to where your wallet/purse could be then I suggest you apprehend them and take them to the nearest cop. :-) Cheers, Stefan From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:07 PM To: Stefan Creaser; Bill Mixon; texas cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RFID chips Well, Bill, not everybody is as smart as you are and sometimes when somebody tries to do you a favor, the courteous thing to do is just to say thank you. It's not necessary to be snarky just because you know everything. > From: stefan.crea...@arm.com > To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com; texascavers@texascavers.com > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:03:11 -0800 > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] RFID chips > > Here you are, Bill: > > http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-blockkill-RFID-chips/step4/How-to-kill-your-RFID-chip/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 1:32 PM > To: Cavers Texas > Subject: [Texascavers] RFID chips > > No new news there. To really abuse the card as shown, somebody needs both the > reader and the cloner. Sure it could happen. But why does everybody worry > about things like sending their credit card numbers over the Internet or > electronic cloning, when they're prefectly willing to give their credit card to a waiter who disappears with it temporarily and does God knows what while he's got it? Some waiters have been found to have credit-card readers, the simple kind that read the magnetic stripe, of their own. Some people have hacked merchants' > computers and intercepted the data from ordinary magnetic-stripe credit-card > readers. There are plenty of ways to get credit card numbers. But if you're > really worried about it, you could take the suggestion to wrap your card in > aluminum foil--not a hassle if you're like me and hardly ever use it except for mail orders or very rare large purchases like a set of tires. > > Anyway, if you check your statement every month (you _do_, don't you?), you > can get fraudulent charges removed easily. > > The good news it that the technology is very short range. > > I have a weird friend who has injected an RFID chip into his hand. It unlocks > his smart phone; some Android phones have RFID chip readers in them. They're > everywhere.... > > What I'd be interested to hear is how one can kill an RFID chip. Would a few > seconds in a microwave do it, for example? At some point Texas drivers > licenses will have RFID chips in them--maybe some already do. > If somebody wants to see my drivers license, I might not be in the mood to be > very helpful, and it would be nice if he couldn't just read the info > automatically. I've tried to demagnetize the stripe, but I have no way to > know whether that's been successful. -- Mixon > ---------------------------------------- > True friends stab you in the front. > ---------------------------------------- > You may "reply" to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, > save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > > -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. 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