texascavers Digest 14 Sep 2012 20:45:21 -0000 Issue 1626
Topics (messages 20694 through 20702):
Sinkhole Conference deadline extension for students only!
20694 by: George Veni
Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Fw: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
20695 by: Jacqueline Thomas
20696 by: Bill Bentley
20702 by: Corky
Re: Knee Pads
20697 by: Linda Palit
Bats in North Dallas: NBC News Local Affiliate
20698 by: R D Milhollin
Artificial Bat Cave
20699 by: Mark Minton
Lost Oasis Preserve Clean-up
20700 by: ryan monjaras
TSA Nominations
20701 by: Arburn Don
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Dear Friends
Just a few minutes ago the Sinkhole Conference Organizing Committee decided
to extend the deadline, for abstracts for students only and for student
applications for the Barry F. Beck Sinkhole Conference Student Scholarship,
to the end of September. We have received many excellent abstracts for the
Sinkhole Conference in general, but with lower registration prices plus this
new scholarship, we are trying to encourage as many students as possible to
attend. The Sinkhole Conference is a great way for students considering a
career in cave and karst science to meet potential colleagues and employers,
as well as to learn a great amount of cutting-edge information on karst
environmental management.
For more information on the Beck Scholarship, to register for the
conference, and for students to send abstracts and applications, go to
http://www.nckri.org/sinkholeconference2013. Again, the deadline has been
extended only for students through 30 September 2012. If you do not see
these changes on the website, it is because we just made the decision; the
website will be updated soon.
George
***************************
George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
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After reading these emails I found "Ess Cave" with coordinates on Google. I
requested directions, and was redirected to maps. I received directions, then
followed the link to report inappropriate content. Ess Cave is now listed
without coordinates and shows as having been changed four hours ago. I put in a
second request for directions and this time I received the "need more
information about destination" message.
I don't know if that was the only place a location was listed but the person I
found attached to the cave and the coordinates had responded quickly. This
might not be the listing Bill was referring to but it was the only one I could
find that had a location.
Lots of pictures, though…
Jacqui
On Sep 12, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Joe Ranzau wrote:
> The issue I saw is that someone made a custom google map with the cave
> location and left it public. I use the custom maps for work or caving trips
> all the time. The key is to make them private. You can still share the maps
> but your locations and what not will not show up for the public to see. The
> quickest resolution might be to find the map owner (Bill is on it) and get
> them to make the map private.
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Kurt L. Menking <gi...@bcad.org> wrote:
> Just for the sake of multiple complaints, I reported a problem regarding Ess
> Cave as well.
>
>
>
> I know several us GIS’ers locally have submitted errors and other problems to
> Google maps over the past few years. By in large they have been very
> responsive, and have in every instance resolved the issue, and responded
> quickly.
>
>
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
> From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:46 AM
> To: Texascavers Mailing List; s...@caver.net
> Subject: [Texascavers] Fw: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
>
>
>
> Anyone know how to get Google to get this link off the Web?
>
>
>
> See highlighted in red
>
> My attempt to contact Google have gone no where.
>
>
>
> This is what I wrote to Google in the report a problem section:
>
> "Cave Locations should never be made public. This cave has now been damaged
> and vandalized as a result of this thoughtless action by someone and Google
> has allowed that to happen. Please remove this link at your earliest
> convenience."
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bill Bentley
>
> Past President of the Permian Basin Speleological Society
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Ormsby, Matthew A
>
> To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net ; geulves...@gmail.com ;
> laura.e.l...@gmail.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:50 AM
>
> Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
>
>
>
> The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley, Tony
> Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by Kerry
> Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura Liem.
>
>
>
> A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance but
> last months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since then.
>
>
>
> Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian Basin
> Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA membership
> requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will be on September
> 22. Any interested PBSS member are invited and encouraged to attend, please
> make sure your TCMA membership is up to date. If you need directions please
> e-mail me.
>
>
>
> I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
> recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been compromised and
> needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been recommended for the job.
> Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone who knows its location. Thanks
> to Google anyone that searches Ess Cave can find it. Bill is going to send
> Google a request that the location be removed from its map but doubts
> anything will come of it.
>
>
>
> The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am
> tentatively looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I also
> hope to get permits to the TCMA preserve in November after Thanksgiving.
>
>
>
> The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had in
> Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably talked
> about caves.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
> </pre>The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are
> confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s)
> only.<br>Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise use
> this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender and
> then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone.</pre>
>
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It has been corrected and wasn't the exact spot in the first place.... Thanks
to all
Bill
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
Jacqueline Thomas <jlrtho...@verizon.net> wrote:
>After reading these emails I found "Ess Cave" with coordinates on Google. I
>requested directions, and was redirected to maps. I received directions, then
>followed the link to report inappropriate content. Ess Cave is now listed
>without coordinates and shows as having been changed four hours ago. I put in
>a second request for directions and this time I received the "need more
>information about destination" message.
>
>I don't know if that was the only place a location was listed but the person I
>found attached to the cave and the coordinates had responded quickly. This
>might not be the listing Bill was referring to but it was the only one I could
>find that had a location.
>
>Lots of pictures, though…
>
>Jacqui
>
>On Sep 12, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Joe Ranzau wrote:
>
>> The issue I saw is that someone made a custom google map with the cave
>> location and left it public. I use the custom maps for work or caving trips
>> all the time. The key is to make them private. You can still share the
>> maps but your locations and what not will not show up for the public to see.
>> The quickest resolution might be to find the map owner (Bill is on it) and
>> get them to make the map private.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Kurt L. Menking <gi...@bcad.org> wrote:
>> Just for the sake of multiple complaints, I reported a problem regarding Ess
>> Cave as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know several us GIS’ers locally have submitted errors and other problems
>> to Google maps over the past few years. By in large they have been very
>> responsive, and have in every instance resolved the issue, and responded
>> quickly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:46 AM
>> To: Texascavers Mailing List; s...@caver.net
>> Subject: [Texascavers] Fw: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone know how to get Google to get this link off the Web?
>>
>>
>>
>> See highlighted in red
>>
>> My attempt to contact Google have gone no where.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is what I wrote to Google in the report a problem section:
>>
>> "Cave Locations should never be made public. This cave has now been damaged
>> and vandalized as a result of this thoughtless action by someone and Google
>> has allowed that to happen. Please remove this link at your earliest
>> convenience."
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Bill Bentley
>>
>> Past President of the Permian Basin Speleological Society
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Ormsby, Matthew A
>>
>> To: p...@caver.net ; s...@caver.net ; geulves...@gmail.com ;
>> laura.e.l...@gmail.com
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:50 AM
>>
>> Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting Notes
>>
>>
>>
>> The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley, Tony
>> Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by Kerry
>> Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura Liem.
>>
>>
>>
>> A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance but
>> last months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since then.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian
>> Basin Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA
>> membership requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will be on
>> September 22. Any interested PBSS member are invited and encouraged to
>> attend, please make sure your TCMA membership is up to date. If you need
>> directions please e-mail me.
>>
>>
>>
>> I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
>> recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been compromised
>> and needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been recommended for the job.
>> Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone who knows its location. Thanks
>> to Google anyone that searches Ess Cave can find it. Bill is going to send
>> Google a request that the location be removed from its map but doubts
>> anything will come of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am
>> tentatively looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I also
>> hope to get permits to the TCMA preserve in November after Thanksgiving.
>>
>>
>>
>> The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had in
>> Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably talked
>> about caves.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> </pre>The contents of this electronic mail message and any attachments are
>> confidential, possibly privileged and intended for the addressee(s)
>> only.<br>Only the addressee(s) may read, disseminate, retain or otherwise
>> use this message. If received in error, please immediately inform the sender
>> and then delete this message without disclosing its contents to anyone.</pre>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PBSS mailing list
>> p...@caver.net
>> http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbss
>> _______________________________________________
>> This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SWR mailing list
>> s...@caver.net
>> http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr
>> _______________________________________________
>> This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
>
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I've never been to Ess, but this is what I found a few minutes ago:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&vpsrc=6&ctz=300&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=212266125842316788467.0004b076b90d9727fb12c&ll=30.938314,-101.998401&spn=0,0&t=m&source=embed
Hopefully this is not correct.
Corky
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I like howitzers. On rope carries them.
On Monday, September 10, 2012, Alex Sproul wrote:
> **
> On 10 Sep 2012 at 15:20, James Jasek wrote:
>
> What are the most comfortable knee pads made to wear on the outside of
> clothing.
>
>
>
> *Crawldaddies*<http://www.innermountainoutfitters.net/catalogentry.php?search=crawldaddies&catalogentryid=780&brand=Crawldaddies>
>
> or
>
> *Dirty
> Dave's*<http://www.innermountainoutfitters.net/catalogentry.php?brand[]=Crawldaddies&subcategoryid=12&page=1&catalogentryid=841&brand=Dirty%20Daves>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> --
> *Alex Sproul*
> *NSS 8086RL/FE*
> *NSS Webmaster*
> *www.caves.org* <http://www.caves.org>
>
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Short story that made the nbcnews.com feed tonight, written by local reporter
Kevin Cokely. I find it hard to believe this is the first reference in the
mainstream media to the positive effects of urban bat populations from the
center of the West Nile Virus (North American) Universe. This should be a
wakeup call for more bat houses and bat-friendly infrastructure.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/49013703/ns/local_news-dallas_fort_worth_tx/#.UFFpK0KyxGM
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First we had the chiroptorium
<http://bambergerranch.org/the-bats-of-selah/>; now the Nature
Conservancy is building an artificial bat cave in Tennessee that can
be disinfected to combat
WNS.
<http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives/regions/northamerica/unitedstates/tennessee/artificialbatcave.xml>
Mark
Please reply to mmin...@caver.net
Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org
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There is a scheduled clean-up of Lost Oasis Cave Preserve for Sunday Sept. 16
at 10 A.M. Please bring chain saws, loppers and other brush clearing equipment.
Lunch and refreshments will be provided and so will entry into the cave. If it
is raining the clean-up will be canceled and rescheduled for a later date. Any
questions please e-mail me back and if you are going contact me so I can get an
estimate on how much food to buy.
"Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto
SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager
(832)754-5778
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This is a shout out to the Texas Speleological Association's membership. It's
down to the wire and time for TSA Chair nominations. There are three positions
open; Nominations Committee Chair, Secretary and Vice President. Your TSA needs
you. First, we need to get a volunteer to chair the Nominations Committee.
It's fun, it's easy and it's short, and feel the power wielded in your hands.
Contact me off list for more info.
That is all.
Don Arburn
President
Texas Speleological Association
donarb...@mac.com
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