texascavers Digest 15 Jun 2012 18:41:04 -0000 Issue 1575

Topics (messages 20184 through 20196):

New secret passages discovered in Carlsbad Caverns
        20184 by: Lee H. Skinner
        20186 by: Louise Power

Re: [SWR] New secret passages discovered in Carlsbad Caverns
        20185 by: Diana Tomchick

Re: Nick Arburn motorcycle accident
        20187 by: Joe Ranzau

new AMCS pubs
        20188 by: Mixon Bill

news nonsense
        20189 by: Mixon Bill
        20190 by: Diana Tomchick
        20191 by: Ron R
        20192 by: Chris Vreeland

2nd Quarter 2012 TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online
        20193 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com

Last ditch effort to make it to convention...
        20194 by: Herman Miller

Southwestern Region 50th Celebration Group Photo
        20195 by: Pete Lindsley

OFF TOPIC - In search of 1996 to 2002 4Runner
        20196 by: Sheryl Rieck

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Actually, it's in Lechuguilla:  http://tinyurl.com/89chx3t

James Hunter is the only caver mentioned, but John Lyles was also there.

- Lee Skinner



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Heck, you beat me to it. I'd just copied the link.
 
Have you guys been hiding "secret passages" from us again. The headline writer 
needs to learn to read the article before writing the headline. But then, s/he 
probably doesn't know the difference between Lechuguilla and CCNP.
 
Here's the online version: 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47801595/ns/technology_and_science-science/
 

> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:26:29 -0600
> From: skin...@thuntek.net
> To: j...@lanl.gov; s...@caver.net; hun...@nmt.edu; 
> texascavers@texascavers.com; sandiagro...@caver.net
> Subject: [Texascavers] New secret passages discovered in Carlsbad Caverns
> 
> Actually, it's in Lechuguilla: http://tinyurl.com/89chx3t
> 
> James Hunter is the only caver mentioned, but John Lyles was also there.
> 
> - Lee Skinner
> 
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Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
Dept. of Biochemistry
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
(214) 645-6383 (office)
(214) 418-5827 (cell)
diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>

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From: <derekbris...@comcast.net<mailto:derekbris...@comcast.net>>
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: June 13, 2012 3:03:16 PM CDT
To: "Lee H. Skinner" <skin...@thuntek.net<mailto:skin...@thuntek.net>>
Cc: nmcaver list <s...@caver.net<mailto:s...@caver.net>>, texascavers list 
<texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>, Internal 
Communications of the Sandia Grotto 
<sandiagro...@caver.net<mailto:sandiagro...@caver.net>>, "John T. M. Lyles" 
<j...@lanl.gov<mailto:j...@lanl.gov>>
Subject: Re: [SWR] New secret passages discovered in Carlsbad Caverns

Jen Foote and Brian Kendrick were also involved.

Derek Bristol

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From: "Lee H. Skinner" <skin...@thuntek.net<mailto:skin...@thuntek.net>>
To: "John T. M. Lyles" <j...@lanl.gov<mailto:j...@lanl.gov>>, "nmcaver list" 
<s...@caver.net<mailto:s...@caver.net>>, "James Hunter" 
<hun...@nmt.edu<mailto:hun...@nmt.edu>>, "texascavers list" 
<texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>, "Internal 
Communications of the Sandia Grotto" 
<sandiagro...@caver.net<mailto:sandiagro...@caver.net>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:26:29 PM
Subject: [SWR] New secret passages discovered in Carlsbad Caverns

Actually, it's in Lechuguilla:  http://tinyurl.com/89chx3t

James Hunter is the only caver mentioned, but John Lyles was also there.

- Lee Skinner



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Don, Jenni and the entire family are comforted by the loving embrace of their 
caver family. They appreciate everyone allowing them this time to privately 
grieve. 

Nick will be cremated in the coming week. There will not be a service or 
internment. 

The family has decided to hold a Celebration of Nick's life in several weeks. 
Most likely in early July.  We will make an announcement with details as we get 
closer. 

We are compiling memories, sympathies, pictures etc for the family. Feel free 
to send them directly to me. 

Joe

On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Joe Ranzau <jran...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Folks, those not already aware please see the unfortunate news below. 
>> 
>> At this time the family plans to have a small private gathering in the next 
>> day or so. This will be primarily for family. 
>> 
>> There are no plans for a formal funeral service. 
>> 
>> A celebration of Nic's life will be held in the near future, most likely not 
>> this weekend. Plans are still fluid and we will keep everyone informed. 
>> 
>> We will let everyone know when Don and Jenni are ready for visitors and 
>> calls. 
>> 
>> Joe
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> 
> 
> Joe
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>> From: "Miller, Marvin" <marvin.mil...@m7aero.com>
>> Date: June 13, 2012 8:46:16 AM CDT
>> Subject: Nick Arburn motorcycle accident
>> 
>> Bexar Grotto Cavers,
>>  
>> Last night Nick Arburn died in a motorcycle accident. Don and Jenni are 
>> obviously distraught, and I'm sure many in the Grotto would like to comfort 
>> them, but please do not call them at this time. If you would like to help 
>> with preparing and delivering food, please contact Sara Ranzau at 
>> 210-483-3209, and please keep in mind that Jenni is a vegetarian. Joe Ranzau 
>> will be working on organizing the services, so questions about that can be 
>> directed to him at 210-289-6839.
>>  
>> Thank you,
>>  
>> Marvin Miller

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"AMCS Activities Newsletter" 35, May 2012, is our annual magazine of news and articles about Mexican caves and caving. This issue contains 120 pages, with about 35 pages of news and thirteen feature articles. Amost all the photographs and many of the maps are in full color. 8.5 by 11 inches. $15 softbound, $25 hardbound.

AMCS Bulletin 22, "Return to the Forgotten World/Regreso al Mundo Olvidado," by Carlos Lazcano SahagĂșn, has English subtitle Discovery of the Ancient Pueblos of the Casas Grandes Culture in the Sierra Madre Occidental. Bilingual English/Spanish throughout, with maps and color photos of numerous cliff dwellings in Chihuahua. June 2012, 8.5 by 11 inches, 120 pages softbound. $10.

Shipping charge in U.S. $3 for first book, $1 each additional; foreign inquire. Send a check to AMCS, PO Box 7672, Austin, Texas 78713, or e- mail sa...@amcs-pubs.org with payment via PayPal. See http://www.amcs-pubs.org/finance/order.html . Orders by paper mail probably won't be send until early July, after the NSS convention.

Or visit our sales tables in the indoor vendor area at the NSS convention in Lewisburg, West Virginia.

Futher information, including tables of contents, on these and all our publications can be found at http://wwwamcs-pubs.org. A two-page PDF summary mail-order price list is at http://www.amcs-pubs.org/finance/pricelist.pdf .
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--- Begin Message --- "A recent study published in the journal PLoS ONE found that ancient bacteria in the cave possessed a surprising degree of bacterial resistance."

Who writes these things? -- Mixon
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Ah, Bill, this is indeed an accurate statement. The antibiotic compounds that 
we humans use that are produced by soil bacteria (e.g., streptomycin, from the 
Streptomyces bacterial species) are chemicals that are secreted by the bacteria 
when they are surrounded by different, competing bacterial species. In effect, 
the antibiotic-secreting bacteria are deploying chemical warfare against other 
bacterial species--a sort of bacterial resistance campaign.

Diana

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Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:

> "A recent study published in the journal PLoS ONE found that ancient bacteria 
> in the cave possessed a surprising degree of bacterial resistance."
>
> Who writes these things? -- Mixon
> ----------------------------------------
> I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, "The things your 
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It is the bacterial version of "Fight the Power!"

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> "A recent study published in the journal PLoS ONE found that ancient
> bacteria in the cave possessed a surprising degree of bacterial resistance."
>
> Who writes these things? -- Mixon
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> I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, "The things
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That was a puzzler, wasn't it?

On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:17 AM, Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> "A recent study published in the journal PLoS ONE found that ancient bacteria 
> in the cave possessed a surprising degree of bacterial resistance."
> 
> Who writes these things? -- Mixon
> ----------------------------------------
> I'm walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, "The things your 
> science has created are indeed wonderful. You must explain to me how 
> everything works." That's when I wake up.
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Howdy, y'all!

 

Whining about no material does pay off! But don't stop now. I need
articles for the next issue, as well!

 

 

The TSA Homepage Czar, Butch Fralia, has posted the second quarter 2012
edition of The TEXAS CAVER to the Members Area.

 

 

In this issue, you'll find a great cover photo of Michael Harris, which
took 2nd place at the TSA Spring Convention.

 

The articles start off with an update from Mike Walsh on the goings on
at the Texas Cave Conservancy.

 

There are a plethora of trip reports from around the state, with a Deep
Cave report from newbie author Allie Loftin, a Boyett's Cave "rescue"
from Ben Hutchins, a West Texas caving report with some excellent photos
from 

Travis Scott,  a beautiful poem by our own poet laureate Mimi Jasek, an
O-9 Well trip report from Aubrey Jenson, an A.S.S. trip to Honey Creek
by Samantha Carley, another newbie to the TEXAS CAVER, a report about
Joe Mitchell's 40th birthday from 

Michael Harris, and a fascinating list of lists of "10 Reasons I love
Caving", initiated by Sheryl Rieck.

 

There also is a highly enjoyable TSA Spring Convention report from
Bennett Lee, as well as a fantastic group photo he shot. The inside
cover features a photo collage from the Convention from Michael Harris,
Leslie Bell, and Bill Bentley.

 

Finally, there is a long-winded wrap up report from the Longhorn Caverns
State Park Project from yours truly and a bunch of excellent photos from
Venture Crew 416 of Plano, Texas and from Leslie Bell!

 

 

This is a very special issue and one, we at the TSA, hope you will
enjoy, but:

 

 

You must be a paid TSA member to enjoy online reading of this latest
newsletter!

 

 

In other words: No Pay, No View

 

 

If your dues have expired,  you won't be able to access the Members Area
of the website until your dues are current.

 

When your dues have been paid, please give me a shout and you'll be
reinstated with full honors and privileges!

Here are the insanely cheap rates listed below:

 

* Single Membership - $15.00 - Newsletter Online

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Please go to www.cavetexas.org <http://www.cavetexas.org>  to renew your
dues or to become a new member or join at TCR and receive your very own
copy of the latest newsletter.

 

If you're a TSA member, but haven't yet joined the Digital Revolution,
it is extremely painless to do so. Go to
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and sign up and enjoy this issue and all four past "Members Only"
issues.

Please remember to select how you want your TC: mail or digital.

Issues older than one year are FREE for you, the inquiring caver, to
peruse at your leisure and, hopefully, will encourage you to join the
TSA.

You can still opt to receive the TC in the mail and be able to view the
issues online.

 

 

 

Not a TSA member? We still would like for you to contemplate becoming a
TSA member. Send me an email for your complimentary  TEXAS CAVER and see
what you've been missing. 

Or, you can visit the TSA website at www.cavetexas.org
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online member of the TSA.

Become a member yourself, or, sign up that special someone as a new or
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Paid members now have access to a total of 34 issues available for your
reading pleasure! 

Those contemplating membership can now view 31 issues online! (Bill just
added two more!)

 

 

I always NEED material for the next issue and can ALWAYS use whatever
you send me!  I love getting articles, but, especially enjoy reports
from TC virgins.

Worried that you're not a very good writer or have never submitted one?
Not to worry! I barely write at a 3rd grade level and y'all have no
problem reading/enduring my posts!

 

You have a couple of months now till the next issue. So grab some iced
tea and enjoy that air conditioning while you put your thoughts down,
so, submit that report that we all enjoy hearing about.

 

If you happen to be an Armchair Caver, no problem. 

 

I always enjoy receiving submissions for "The Carbide Caver" section of
the newsletter and we would all love to hear a humorous or exciting or
memorable or, potentially, libelous recollection from one of your past
trips, documented for all to read from the depths of your memory!

 

 A HUGE thanks to all who have helped me out in this issue and past
issues. Now, get your other fellow cavers involved!

 

Thanks for your support of the TC, the TSA, and making Texas the great
Center of the Caving Universe.

 

Enjoy and have a safe and fun summer!

 

 

 

 

Mark Alman - TEXAS CAVER Editor

 


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As many of you know I recently had a grudge match with a neighborhood dog
and my motorcycle which is now in the shop getting fixed.  I was going to
ride my motorcycle out to convention this year due to its great 60 mpg but
as it stands I have all the time necessary off of work but now way to get
to convention.  If anyone is driving to convention and has an open seat
could you please contact me offlist

Herman Miller
her...@cavechat.org

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--- Begin Message --- Thanks to Steve Peerman for his diligence in identifying all the people in the Group Photo in front of the renovated railing on Fort Stanton Building #9. [http://www.caves.org/region/swr/ photos2.html#SWR50]. Look closely to make sure we have all the right names in the right places, and let us know of any additional corrections. Click on the photo to get a higher resolution (5.4 MB) version.

- Pete

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George and I are looking for a 4 Runner, 4 wheel drive, standard
transmission, 4 cyl, year models 1996 to 2002. If you have one, know of
one, hear of one, or have advice on where to look for one that is for sale,
we would appreciate hearing from you.  We are willing to go quite a
distance to bring one home. Quite a distance is defined as anywhere with
the USA 48.

Thanks,
Sheryl & George

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