You know Carlsbad Caverns used to pipe cave air up to the visitor center through the elevator shafts. Then finally they realized what damage they were doing to the cave--drying out formations, causing yucky things to grow in the cave, etc. They finally sealed up the shafts and the cave gradually went back to fairly normal. It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature. Louise
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 16:34:11 -0400 > From: wdwal...@windstream.net > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving Wire Ladders? > > I used a cable ladder this afternoon to install a new light inside the > pit under the basement of the Wayne County, KY Museum. The pit was once > connected to the cave system beneath the city from which the then hotel > drew cave air into the building. That didn't last very long. In 1938 > the hotel installed real air conditioning. Today that hotel building is > the Wayne County Museum. > > I have a cave exhibit in that basement room with photos of Wayne County > cave and an exhibit of caving equipment used in Wayne county from the > 1950s through the present. The pit, which has a rail around it, is > always the biggest hit. > > Best to all, > Bill Walden > Wayne County, KY > > > On 5/1/2012 12:44 PM, Mark Minton wrote: > > I disagree that ladders are the best way to do even short > > drops, except in cases where there may be a single short pitch quite > > remote in a cave. For one thing, to use one safely you should have a > > belay rope, so why not just climb it instead of also carrying a > > ladder? IMO also sells cable ladders, but they're very expensive > > ($150 for 10 m). Why not buy rope instead? > > > > Mark > > > > At 11:39 AM 5/1/2012, Stefan Creaser wrote: > >> Nah, they're the best thing for pitches upto 30ft! > >> > >> You can get them in the UK Lyndon, btw. > >> > >> Cheers, Stefan > >> > >> From: Ron R [mailto:rcrutherf...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 10:27 AM > >> To: Lyndon Tiu > >> Cc: Cavers Texas > >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Caving Wire Ladders? > >> > >> They have been (or should be) outlawed internationally as a cruel and > >> unusually punishing ascending device. > >> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca> wrote: > >> Can someone recommend where I can get caving wire ladders? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -- > >> Lyndon Tiu > > > > Please reply to mmin...@caver.net > > Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
