Dirt Doc: I'm right behind you, Ann Harman and I are leaving for Laos next Thursday. We will be visiting some of the same areas, but for a longer period of time and going deeper (into the karst that is, not the caves, you and the Frenchies can have the caves!) We will also be exploring further north along the Nam Ou. This time I hope to avoid problems with the authorities by not saying a word to anyone. Last time I was in southern Laos they sent the local militia after me! After a month in Laos we will fly to southern Thailand for some R&R then work our way north along the Tenasserim range for another month. Plenty of caves there too! I would have posted this on cavechat but the bullshit security rules wouldn't allow me to log on. Sleazeweazel