texascavers Digest 30 Nov 2011 18:31:07 -0000 Issue 1444
Topics (messages 19121 through 19126):
Re: anniversary issue of Texas Caver
19121 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
Re: 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
19122 by: Stefan Creaser
19123 by: Julia Germany
19124 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
19125 by: ryan monjaras
19126 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
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We will be placing a future order, Bill, once I see how many returns I
get from a SIX year old mailing list.
If you haven't received a copy yet, sit tight.
Only 150 copies were initially ordered for ~170 members.
Mark
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From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:50 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] anniversary issue of Texas Caver
I hope there are additional copies available for sale to others. --
Mixon
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Why not have a meeting 1hr before the spring meeting, which is then immediately
adjourned? Simple...
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:49 AM
To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Since the Winter Meeting has already been cancelled, a third meeting will be
discussed by the new Board at the Spring Business Meeting at the 2012 TSA
Spring Convention in Boerne, TX on March 30-April 1st, 2012.
Thanks,
Mark
From: jerryat...@aol.com [mailto:jerryat...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:57 AM
To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3 membership
meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at the Spring
Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to hold another
meeting to comply with the Bylaws ?
Jerry.
In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,
ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:
Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page
http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if people
think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is so close to the
fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel the Winter Business
Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
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Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not changed to
reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a third meeting for
2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be right with the by-laws. I
haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do they state when the meetings must
take place?
As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a copy
of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting minutes to make
sure you are following the rules of your by-laws.
julia
-----Original Message-----
From: JerryAtkin <jerryat...@aol.com>
To: ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; trhli <tr...@sprynet.com>
Cc: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3 membership
meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at the Spring
Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to hold another
meeting to comply with the Bylaws ?
Jerry.
In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,
ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:
Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page
http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if people
think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is so close to
the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel the Winter Business
Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
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>From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution:
Article V: MEETINGS. At least three TSA meetings shall be held each
calendar year. The time and place of all TSA meetings shall be announced
through a regular publication of the TSA, or by electronic mail to all
members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the officers or by
written petition of 20% of all TSA members.
Since we've already had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to
schedule another one for 2012 can be done at the Spring Convention
Business Meeting (or an hour before, as Stefan proposes. I always liked
the way you think, Stefan!).
As you can see, no specific dates or venues are specified.
Mark
From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM
To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not
changed to reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a
third meeting for 2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be
right with the by-laws. I haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do
they state when the meetings must take place?
As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a
copy of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting
minutes to make sure you are following the rules of your by-laws.
julia
-----Original Message-----
From: JerryAtkin <jerryat...@aol.com>
To: ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; trhli <tr...@sprynet.com>
Cc: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3
membership meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at
the Spring Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to
hold another meeting to comply with the Bylaws ?
Jerry.
In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,
ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:
Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page
http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if
people think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is
so close to the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel
the Winter Business Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
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Let's have a summer convention, preferably with a river or lake to cool down in.
"Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT
GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:12:19 -0600
To: germa...@aol.com; jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com;
tr...@sprynet.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution: Article V: MEETINGS. At least
three TSA meetings shall be held each calendar year. The time and place of all
TSA meetings shall be announced through a regular publication of the TSA, or by
electronic mail to all members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the
officers or by written petition of 20% of all TSA members. Since we’ve already
had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to schedule another one for 2012
can be done at the Spring Convention Business Meeting (or an hour before, as
Stefan proposes. I always liked the way you think, Stefan!). As you can see, no
specific dates or venues are specified. Mark From: Julia Germany
[mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM
To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not changed to
reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a third meeting for
2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be right with the by-laws. I
haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do they state when the meetings must
take place?
As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a copy
of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting minutes to make
sure you are following the rules of your by-laws.
julia
-----Original Message-----
From: JerryAtkin <jerryat...@aol.com>
To: ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; trhli <tr...@sprynet.com>
Cc: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*That's all
well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3 membership meetings per
year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at the Spring Convention and in
the Fall, when do the officers propose to hold another meeting to comply with
the Bylaws ? Jerry. In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard
Time, ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes
Archive Page http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked
if people think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is so
close to the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel the Winter
Business Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
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Okily, dokily, Ryan.
You're in charge of ramrodding it!
Mark
From: ryan monjaras [mailto:trog...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:25 PM
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Let's have a summer convention, preferably with a river or lake to cool
down in.
"Semper Exploro"
Ryan Monjaras
Maverick Grotto
Cowtown Grotto
DFW Grotto
UT Grotto
Bexar Grotto
(832)754-5778
________________________________
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:12:19 -0600
To: germa...@aol.com; jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com;
tr...@sprynet.com
CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
>From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution:
Article V: MEETINGS. At least three TSA meetings shall be held each
calendar year. The time and place of all TSA meetings shall be announced
through a regular publication of the TSA, or by electronic mail to all
members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the officers or by
written petition of 20% of all TSA members.
Since we've already had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to
schedule another one for 2012 can be done at the Spring Convention
Business Meeting (or an hour before, as Stefan proposes. I always liked
the way you think, Stefan!).
As you can see, no specific dates or venues are specified.
Mark
From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM
To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not
changed to reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a
third meeting for 2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be
right with the by-laws. I haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do
they state when the meetings must take place?
As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a
copy of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting
minutes to make sure you are following the rules of your by-laws.
julia
-----Original Message-----
From: JerryAtkin <jerryat...@aol.com>
To: ellie.thoene <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>; trhli <tr...@sprynet.com>
Cc: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3
membership meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at
the Spring Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to
hold another meeting to comply with the Bylaws ?
Jerry.
In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,
ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:
Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page
http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if
people think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is
so close to the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel
the Winter Business Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
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