Andy,
I'd be happy to assist and the Spider System sounds interesting also.
Gerry
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Zenker 
  To: George Veni 
  Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; Cavetex ; Scott Kyle 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report


  Hi George,  
  I'm interested in surveying Raccoon Ramada.  I'd also be happy to work on the 
Spider System.

  Everyone else,
  I'm sure I can borrow some survey gear, but I will need a couple of 
volunteers to help survey. If anyone is interested, let me know.  We'll get it 
done in January/February.
  Also, I'll be bringing vertical gear so we can hopefully check out Cascade 
and Fisher sinks for fun next time.

  Andy Z


  On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:34 PM, George Veni <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    My congratulations to James and the team which made this discovery 
possible. I dove the sump in 1982 and found it ended in mud fill at a depth of 
5 m. It seems that floods since then washed out that plug. I admit to not 
having had much hope for the sump and am glad to be proven wrong!



    As for Raccoon Ramada, it was discovered and explored by Randy Waters about 
30 years. He never got around to surveying it. He did survey and draw a pencil 
draft of the nearby Spider System. If anyone is interested in finalizing that 
map let me know. It would be a simple matter to digitally trace his draft. 
Unfortunately, Randy is no longer with us to complete the map himself.



    George



    From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:[email protected]] 
    Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 19:25
    To: Cavetex; Scott Kyle
    Subject: [Texascavers] Cascade Caverns sump dive report



    A big thanks to all of the help for the tank haul to the sump in Cascade 
Caverns on Saturday.  James Brown dove the sump, starting at 10:36am and 
resurfanced approximately 40 minutes later.  James extended the cave by 366 
feet until he ran out of guideline.  Per his report, "Start of Sump dive is the 
smallest at 6 feet wide and 2 feet high.  Underwater passage after air bell 
averages 12 feet wide and 6 feet high.   Maximum depth is 31 feet."



    We'll be going back at the end of January or beginning of February to push 
this further.



    Thanks go out to the following people:

    Tom Sims

    Gerry Geletzke

    David Serafine

    Layne Hedrick

    Ian Riddington

    Brandon Cook

    Andy Zenker

    Lyndon Tiu

    Peter Druschke



    Gerry and Andy also explored Raccoon Ramada cave that is on the property, 
but did not get a survey yet.  We'll be returning to do that as well.  The 
entrance to this is a very tight squeeze and I don't know anyone else that has 
squeezed into it.  I'd be curious if there are any records of this.



    Charles




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