texascavers Digest 14 Oct 2010 18:58:42 -0000 Issue 1168
Topics (messages 16299 through 16320):
live rope cam
16299 by: David
cavers recycle
16300 by: Sam Young
Re: new TCR photography policy
16301 by: Saj Zappitello
AMCS sales at TCR
16302 by: Mixon Bill
NSS awards nominations sought
16303 by: Mixon Bill
NSS Science Award
16304 by: Mixon Bill
TCR Weather Report
16305 by: Allan Cobb
Cavers all dressed up, circa 1981
16306 by: Frank Binney
Correct link to caver portraits
16307 by: Frank Binney
photos at TCR -- recap
16308 by: Saj Zappitello
16309 by: Allan Cobb
16311 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Frank's photos of 1981 wedding
16310 by: Logan McNatt
Re: Chilean Miner Rescue happening right now
16312 by: Fofo
16314 by: Gill Edigar
16315 by: germanyj.aol.com
16316 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
16317 by: Fofo
16318 by: Geary Schindel
Last call
16313 by: Ron Ralph
TCR After Hours Gate Code
16319 by: Allan Cobb
TCMA Funraising Breakfast
16320 by: Allan Cobb
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Did anybody watch the installation this morning of a web cam on the
top of the capsule?
It is sending live video images up and down from the top of the capsule.
It appears to be held on with a magnet and some duct tape.
How is this tiny video camera sending live video to the whole world?
That was a good idea, but it seems like they should have had it on the 1st
paramedic down the hole.
David Locklear
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Recycling containers will be available at TCR for the collection of aluminum
cans and plastic bottles. Look for them near the Bexar Grotto camp and the
food area. The aluminum will be contributed to Green Guy Recycling of San
Marcos, the providers of the containers.
......... Sam
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You don't have to leave your camera at home. Just use a little common sense
and have a little RESPECT folks. Give it a try, at least! This is a simple
policy with a lot of avenues of interpretation for a reason. Nudity, partial
nudity, inebriation, all of these things are more fun without a lot of
incriminating photos the next week.
If you don't like this policy, then I challenge you to spend all day
saturday wearing nothing but paint, a thong, and a sign around your neck
that says "please take my picture." ...Actually, I think that could be a lot
of fun ;) ...but I don't think I'd want to see those photos in the Texas
Caver...
~Saj
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:09 AM, <mark.al...@l-3com.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed, Butch, and the same with *The TEXAS CAVER.*
> **
> I always try to make sure that whatever I print, I would be comfortable
> with if it was one of my family members or on the cover of the local
> newspaper (remember those?).
>
> If it would embarrass someone or is cave/landowner sensitive, i.e., gives
> directions to a certain cave, it doesn't go in.
>
> Luckily, neither has been a problem.
>
> BUT, in the age of Facebook and every yahoo in existence having a cellphone
> with a camera, how you will ever be able control this is beyond me.
>
> The genie is out of the bottle and it, along with personal privacy, has
> gone the way of the chariot and carbide.
>
> (See the Rutgers incident).
>
>
> Rest assured that Butch and I will be the epitome of privacy and good
> taste, relatively speaking in a caver sense.
>
>
> All the other avenues, good luck with all that!
>
>
> Mark
>
>
> P.S. - I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed sooner, this week or in
> prior years.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org]
> *Sent:* Fri 10/8/2010 9:01 AM
>
> *To:* 'Saj Zappitello'; Texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy
>
> Is this an official policy or?
>
>
>
> Wouldn’t it be easier to just say don’t take photos of naked people?
>
>
>
> TCR is a difficult place to get photo permission for everyone in the photo,
> there could be hundreds. If we have to ask permission from everyone in the
> photo there wont be a TCR photo spread ever again. We always try to keep
> the website decent and not embarrass anyone. If they are embarrassed, they
> can request a photo be removed.
>
>
>
> Butch
>
>
>
> *From:* Saj Zappitello [mailto:sajar...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:51 AM
> *To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] new TCR photography policy
>
>
>
> In the new generation of social networking sites (like facebook) and a
> global digital footprint, some of us have been brainstorming new ways to
> keep TCR a fun and free-spirited retreat from our usual social inhibitions.
> Our solution is to request that everyone participate in a new photography
> policy that has worked well at other free-spirited gatherings.
>
>
>
> Please DO NOT take photographs of anyone without their permission, and
> certainly do not post photographs of anyone online without permission.
>
>
>
> The way this works is simple--just ask people before you take their
> photograph, and ask them again if you want to post photos online.
>
>
>
> We will post a reminder of this new policy at registration. Let's keep this
> event fun and wild!
>
>
>
> Feel free to respond to me OFF LIST if you have comments about this.
>
>
>
> Thanks and happy caving!
>
> ~Saj
>
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As usual, the Association for Mexican Cave Studies will be selling
publications at TCR. We should have at least a couple copies of
everything in our catalog at amcs-pubs.org (not amcs.org), with lots
of copies of newer things. I believe the following are all new since
the last TCR
AMCS Activities Newsletter 33, June 2010 softbound $10, hardbound $20
AMCS Reprint 11: Mexican Field Trip Guidebooks from the 15th ICS $10
AMCS Bulletin 21: Karst Hydrogeology and Speleogenesis of Sistema
Zacatón, by Marcus Gary $14
From Forests to Deserts: A Journey in the Caves of Mexico. Hardbound
book by the La Venta group in Italy $32
Huautla: The Mexican Cave. 35-minute 1995 film by Jay Arnold converted
to DVD-R. $5
And I don't want to hear anybody say that they know they need issues
of the AMCS Activities Newsletter but don't know which ones. This is
your warning to check and make a list. -- Bill Mixon, AMCS sales
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I am seeking nominations on behalf of the Awards Committee for the
National Speleological Society's highest awards. The recipients of
these awards are selected by the NSS Board of Governors; the Awards
Committee's role is mainly to solicit nominations. Recipients receive
life membership in the NSS.
One person is awarded Honorary Membership each year for "outstanding
contributions to the field of speleology." Candidates need not be NSS
members; the award has often been given to distinguished foreign
speleologists.
One NSS member each year receives the William J. Stephenson
Outstanding Service Award for "outstanding service to speleology and
the society."
I am appending lists of past recipients for your convenience. You
could write a nomination yourself, suggest doing so to someone else
familiar with your candidate's qualifications, or both. Nominating
letters are compiled and sent to the Board of Governors before their
spring meeting. The deadline for nominations for the HM and OS awards
for 2011 is November 15, 2010. This early deadline is to allow time
for members of the Awards Committee and the Board of Governors to add
comments to the file. No one else is told the slate of candidates, and
all nominating materials are confidential.
Nominations for the Honorary Membership and the Outstanding Service
Award should be sent to
Bill Mixon
bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
14045 North Green Hills Loop
Austin, Texas 78737
HONORARY MEMBERS
1941 Vernon O. Bailey
1942 Roy J. Holden
1943 Ralph W. Stone
1944 Allyn Coats Swinnerton
1945 Alexander Wetmore
1946 Robert DeJoly
1947 Don Bloch
1948 William J. Stephenson
1949 Robert Broom
1950 Mark R. Harrington
1951 Emil W. Haury
1952 René G. Jeannel
1953 Charles E. Mohr
1954 J Harlen Bretz
1955 Henri Breuil
1956 Norbert Casteret
1957 Carl F. Miller
1958 Donald R. Griffin
1959 John S. Petrie
1960 William E. Davies
1962* Julia L. Staniland Day
1963 Thomas C. Barr, Jr.
1964 Albert Vandel
1965 William R. Halliday
1966 E. Aubrey Glennie
1967 Russell H. Gurnee
1968 G. Nicholas Sullivan
1969 Walter B. Jones
1970 Donald N. Cournoyer
1971 John A. Stellmack
1972 Jack Herschend
1973 Roger Brucker
1974 Don Sawyer
1975 Derek C. Ford
1976 Marjorie H. Sweeting
1977 Herb & Jan Conn
1978 Rane L. Curl
1979 George W. Moore
1980 John R. Holsinger
1981 Eugenio de Bellard Pietre
1982 Art & Peggy Palmer
1983 Joseph Jennings
1984 Stewart Peck
1985 Merlin Tuttle
1986 Jerry D. Vineyard
1987 Gregory "Tex" Yokum
1988 Richard A. Watson
1989 Patty Jo Watson
1990 Ronal C. Kerbo
1991 Alexander B. Klimchouk
1992 Donald Davis
1993 Antonio Nuñez-Jiménez
1994 Nicholas C. Crawford
1995 David C. Culver
1996 Arrigo A. Cigna
1997 Stein-Erik Lauritzen
1998 William H. Russell
1999 Horton Hobbs III
2000 Ronald Greeley
2001 Paul Williams
2002 Trevor Shaw
2003 James R. Goodbar
2004 Barry F. Beck
2005 Yuan Daoxian
2006 John Gunn
2007 William Elliott
2008 John Mylroie
2009 Andy Eavis
2010 Jim Martin
*The apparent gap just reflects a change in the schedule of announcing
the award.
OUTSTANDING SERVICE AWARD
1973 John Cooper
1974 Charles Larson
1975 William B. White
1976 William F. Cuddington III
1977 Roy Davis
1978 Eugene Vehslage
1979 William S. Hill
1980 George F. Jackson
1981 Jeanne Gurnee
1982 G. Thomas Rea
1983 David McClurg
1984 Evelyn Bradshaw
1985 William W. Torode
1986 Robert R. Stitt
1987 William Mixon
1988 W. Roswell Jones
1989 Paul J. Stevens
1990 Janet B. Thorne
1991 Doug Rhodes
1992 Sheck Exley
1993 Doug Medville
1994 Lee Stevens
1995 Albert C. Mueller
1996 John P. Scheltens
1997 John Wilson
1998 Bill Varnedoe
1999 Warren C. Lewis
2000 Richard Blenz
2001 Dave Jagnow
2002 Robert B. Hoke
2003 Hazel E. Medville
2004 Dave Bunnell
2005 Joel Stevenson
2006 Steve Hudson
2007 Scott Fee
2008 Keith Wheeland
2009 Carol Tiderman
2010 Cheryl Jones
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Dear Fellow Cave Scientists/Cavers:
In my role as the chair of the Science Award subcommittee of the NSS
Awards Committee, I encourage you to submit a nomination for next
year’s NSS Science Award. Please think of some good scientists in the
various cave and karst disciplines who deserve the recognition. We are
looking for people who have made significant contributions to the
sciences, but who are also still very active. Close association of the
scientist with NSS is not mandatory, but preferable. The nominee must
be an NSS member for at least the past two years. Strong preference
will be given to nominees who have not received the NSS Honorary
Member or Outstanding Service awards (if you’re not sure, check next
to the person’s name in the NSS Members Manual or I can let you know).
The previous Science Award recipients are:
1994 William B. White (geoscience)
1995 John Holsinger (biology)
1996 Arthur N. Palmer (geoscience)
1997 Derek Ford (geoscience)
1998 Thomas Poulson (biology)
1999 Patty Jo Watson (archeology)
2000 John Mylroie (geoscience)
2001 James R. Reddell (biology)
2002 Carol A. Hill (mineralogy)
2003 Paolo Forti (geoscience)
2004 E. Calvin Alexander, Jr. (geoscience)
2005 Francis G. Howarth (biology)
2006 Ira D. Sasowsky (geoscience)
2007 Kathleen H. Lavoie (biology)
2008 Julian "Jerry" J. Lewis (biology)
2009 Horton H. Hobbs (biology)
2010 Penny Boston (biology)
Your nomination letter should include details of the nominee’s
contribution to cave science. Please do not assume that “everyone”
knows your nominee. Many members of the Awards Committee and the NSS
Board of Governors are not scientists and will need this information
to make a sound decision. A BRIEF resume attached to your nomination
letter can be very useful, especially if trimmed to highlight the most
significant achievements.
Please keep the process confidential by not letting your nominee know
that they have been nominated. Letters from other people supporting
your nomination are helpful, especially if they provide additional
useful insights into the nominee’s contributions.
If you nominated someone that did not get selected last year, please
let me know if you'd like me to include that nomination this year.
Nominations can be sent to me by mail, e-mail, fax, or as attached e-
mail documents. The deadline is November 15th.
Mail to:
Kathleen Lavoie
Arts and Sciences, 101 Ward Hall
SUNY Plattsburgh
Plattsburgh, NY 1290
lavoi...@plattsburgh.edu
518-564-3152 (fax) 518-564-3150 (any questions)
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Howdy y'all,
I wanted to post the weather report for this weekend. The highs Friday,
Saturday, and Sunday will be in the mid 80s. The low Friday night will be
47 and Saturday night will be 54. Bring shorts for daytime and a jacket for
night. Don't forget something warm to cover with at night.
Information about TCR is available at www.oztotl.com/tcr, t...@oztotl.com, or
by phone at 210-338-0TCR.
See y'all there,
Allan
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I recently scanned some black and white negatives of a Texas caver wedding
back in 1981. You might be surprised at some of the portraits of cavers you
know today, "all dressed up" in their 70s-era best for a church ceremony.
Here's a public link of the album on my Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2093366&id=1172443723&l=32e1790d48
(You don't have to be a Facebook member to view the images).
Frank
PS--I'm bummed out that I can't make it back to Texas this weekend to take
more embarrassing photos like these at TCR.
Frank Binney
Frank Binney & Associates
Interpretive Planning and Media Development
P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
415.488.1200 Voice
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I recently scanned some black and white negatives of a Texas caver wedding
back in 1981. You might be surprised at some of the portraits of cavers you
know today, "all dressed up" in their 70s-era best for a church ceremony.
Here's a public link of the album on my Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2093366&id=1172443723&l=32e1790d48
You don't have to be a Facebook member to view the images.
Frank
PS--I'm bummed out that I can't make it back to Texas this weekend to take
more embarrassing photos like these at TCR.
Frank Binney
Frank Binney & Associates
Interpretive Planning and Media Development
P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
415.488.1200 Voice
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Howdy folks,
So it seems like the word "policy" has been taken out of context. No one
wants a hard and fast rule at TCR, and we shouldn't need to worry about
"policing." Think of this as an officially approved request. *Please be
considerate with your photography.* That's all. And ask your friends to be
considerate too.
Asking permission to take photos is often a common courtesy; however, the
biggest issue is with *posting* photos in a public forum. Once you post a
photo online, it never goes away forever. The same is not true of
traditional printed medium, until it is scanned in and digitized.
Cavers are a community, and when we hang out together, as at TCR, we might
want to be able to leave some of the cares of "normal" life behind. This is
why this request is being put forward.
">Many people behave in ways at TCR that they would not dare even dream of
in their "normal" lives."
">considerate, flexible, common sense guidelines are preferable to rigid
policies"
">Cavers do form a community, and we need to protect the interests of those
who would feel (and be) vulnerable without this protection."
">the concept that TCR is provided as a safe place to turn
> kids, dogs, and yourself loose for the weekend and enjoy some freedoms
> that must be kept penned up during one's daily visits to the real
> world. "
">This ease of distribution, combined with declining respect for privacy
throughout much of society, appears to be the real root of an emerging
potential problem."
Below are the sorts of attitudes that I am trying to discourage. I want
everyone to get wild and let loose with me. I think that they are more
likely to if these fears are put to rest by a simple considerate approach.
">If you do something in public that you don't want publicized - then don't
do it."
">don't do it during the daylight hours at TCR. That way no one can take an
embarrassing photo of you."
">unintended and naive use of those photos can and will happen."
I want everyone to be comfortable and *do* do it. Let's get informed, and
inform our friends, and protect our carefree community.
Thanks,
~Saj
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TCR supports this awareness program. Please think before you press that
button. There will be no "photo police" at TCR.
Allan
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From: Saj Zappitello
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] photos at TCR -- recap
Howdy folks,
So it seems like the word "policy" has been taken out of context. No one
wants a hard and fast rule at TCR, and we shouldn't need to worry about
"policing." Think of this as an officially approved request. Please be
considerate with your photography. That's all. And ask your friends to be
considerate too.
Asking permission to take photos is often a common courtesy; however, the
biggest issue is with posting photos in a public forum. Once you post a photo
online, it never goes away forever. The same is not true of traditional printed
medium, until it is scanned in and digitized.
Cavers are a community, and when we hang out together, as at TCR, we might
want to be able to leave some of the cares of "normal" life behind. This is why
this request is being put forward.
">Many people behave in ways at TCR that they would not dare even dream of in
their "normal" lives."
">considerate, flexible, common sense guidelines are preferable to rigid
policies"
">Cavers do form a community, and we need to protect the interests of those
who would feel (and be) vulnerable without this protection."
">the concept that TCR is provided as a safe place to turn
> kids, dogs, and yourself loose for the weekend and enjoy some freedoms
> that must be kept penned up during one's daily visits to the real
> world. "
">This ease of distribution, combined with declining respect for privacy
throughout much of society, appears to be the real root of an emerging
potential problem."
Below are the sorts of attitudes that I am trying to discourage. I want
everyone to get wild and let loose with me. I think that they are more likely
to if these fears are put to rest by a simple considerate approach.
">If you do something in public that you don't want publicized - then don't
do it."
">don't do it during the daylight hours at TCR. That way no one can take an
embarrassing photo of you."
">unintended and naive use of those photos can and will happen."
I want everyone to be comfortable and do do it. Let's get informed, and
inform our friends, and protect our carefree community.
Thanks,
~Saj
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Seeing that this place is seemingly a themepark for redneck mudboggers how are they gonna get the memo/drink the koolade?
T
Oct 13, 2010 08:55:53 PM, sajar...@gmail.com wrote:
Howdy folks,
So it seems like the word "policy" has been taken out of context. No one wants a hard and fast rule at TCR, and we shouldn't need to worry about "policing." Think of this as an officially approved request. Please be considerate with your photography. That's all. And ask your friends to be considerate too.
Asking permission to take photos is often a common courtesy; however, the biggest issue is with posting photos in a public forum. Once you post a photo online, it never goes away forever. The same is not true of traditional printed medium, until it is scanned in and digitized.
Cavers are a community, and when we hang out together, as at TCR, we might want to be able to leave some of the cares of "normal" life behind. This is why this request is being put forward.
">Many people behave in ways at TCR that they would not dare even dream of in their "normal" lives."
">considerate, flexible, common sense guidelines are preferable to rigid policies"
">Cavers do form a community, and we need to protect the interests of those who would feel (and be) vulnerable without this protection."
">the concept that TCR is provided as a safe place to turn
> kids, dogs, and yourself loose for the weekend and enjoy some freedoms
> that must be kept penned up during one's daily visits to the real
> world. "
">This ease of distribution, combined with declining respect for privacy throughout much of society, appears to be the real root of an emerging potential problem."
Below are the sorts of attitudes that I am trying to discourage. I want everyone to get wild and let loose with me. I think that they are more likely to if these fears are put to rest by a simple considerate approach.
">If you do something in public that you don't want publicized - then don't do it."
">don't do it during the daylight hours at TCR. That way no one can take an embarrassing photo of you."
">unintended and naive use of those photos can and will happen."
I want everyone to be comfortable and do do it. Let's get informed, and inform our friends, and protect our carefree community.
Thanks,
~Saj
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Thanks Frank. Good examples of the black & white world I mentioned in a
previous email.
The wedding was unusual because it brought together two groups of people who would never have mingled otherwise. Duwain was in the Aggie Cadet
Corps, so half of the guests were Aggies, including many cadets. The other half was Barbara's many caver friends from Austin and other places,
who showed up with beards, long hair, and wearing blue jeans. Most of the cavers had never met Duwain and were confused, even concerned, about
Barbara's decision. Duwain and I had shared a big ol' house in Bryan so I assured them that Barbara had made a good choice. Both groups were
on their best behavior and it was a memorable wedding, which as Frank said, has resulted in a lasting relationship.
Like a lot of cavers, Barb and Duwain became serious river rafters, and have a successful sideline selling very detailed maps they've made of
major rivers in the western U.S.
Check out at http:// www.rivermaps.net
Logan
P.S. Sorry you're not going to be at TCR this year.
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On 10/13/2010 8:52 PM, Frank Binney wrote:
I recently scanned some black and white negatives of a Texas caver wedding
back in 1981. You might be surprised at some of the portraits of cavers you
know today, "all dressed up" in their 70s-era best for a church ceremony.
Here's a public link of the album on my Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2093366&id=1172443723&l=32e1790d48
You don't have to be a Facebook member to view the images.
Frank
PS--I'm bummed out that I can't make it back to Texas this weekend to take
more embarrassing photos like these at TCR.
Frank Binney
Frank Binney& Associates
Interpretive Planning and Media Development
P.O. Box 258
Woodacre, CA 94973
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Antonio AA wrote, on 12/10/10 22:13 :
wonder if those eyes protection glasses, are Oakley ones?
Well, they were!
Here's a note from the NY Times:
"All the miners came out of the capsules in expensive dark glasses �
donated by Oakley � to protect them from the sun, but the main health
effect they all shared was very pale skin from being in the dark so long. "
Basically, the article was about how well the miners and authorities had
coped with this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/world/americas/14medical.html
(I didn't know that some people even had they idea that the miners could
be getting "the bends" when they surfaced)
Take care,
- Fofo
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Most of them seemed to have pretty good looking wives & girlfriends.
More incentive to wait it out.
The whole thing with the glasses was fluff as far as I was concerned.
They've been flashing lights in each other's faces the whole time.
Their irises ought to dilate and contract in normal fashion enough to
prevent any problems.
--Ediger
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But the miners looked so cool coming out of the capsule in the middle of the
night wearing their fashionable Oakleys ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Gill Edigar <gi...@att.net>
To: Fofo <gonza...@msu.edu>
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Chilean Miner Rescue happening right now
Most of them seemed to have pretty good looking wives & girlfriends.
More incentive to wait it out.
The whole thing with the glasses was fluff as far as I was concerned.
They've been flashing lights in each other's faces the whole time.
Their irises ought to dilate and contract in normal fashion enough to
prevent any problems.
--Ediger
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Did y'all hear about the miner who had both?
His GF was there to greet him. His wife was nowhere in sight.
You think he might want to climb back down that hole?!
Yikes!
Mark
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From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Gill Edigar
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:30 PM
To: Fofo
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Chilean Miner Rescue happening right now
Most of them seemed to have pretty good looking wives & girlfriends.
More incentive to wait it out.
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Hehe, yeah, heard about it, that soon after the accident both showed up
to get information.
I could see this guy yesterday before exiting the mine "No, you guys go
ahead, I still need to finish cleaning here. Actually, you know? My
shift will start soon, so I might as well stay here and go straight to
work."
- Fofo
mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote, on 14/10/10 10:38 :
Did y'all hear about the miner who had both?
His GF was there to greet him. His wife was nowhere in sight.
You think he might want to climb back down that hole?!
Yikes!
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Gill Edigar
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:30 PM
To: Fofo
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Chilean Miner Rescue happening right now
Most of them seemed to have pretty good looking wives& girlfriends.
More incentive to wait it out.
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Folks,
I had a similar problem once when I tried to poke my eye out at work. I had a
strap on a brief case blow out and the metal attachment swung up and hit the
lens of my eye. (This is a real common problem using bungee cords) Needless
to say, I thought I had poked it out and the eye jelly eye was running down my
face.
Our HR person was right across the hall and so she helped pick me up off the
floor and drove me to the emergency room near the office. She also called my
wife who came down with the kids to get in on the action (it's not every day
someone pokes their eye out). Raquel was in the back with me when Sue arrived
but the nursing staff wouldn't let Sue see me for some reason. After a pretty
long wait, Raquel went out to see what was keeping Sue when she saw her in the
waiting room. The hospital staff thought that Raquel was my Significant Other
and Sue was my Wife and they thought it best that they not meet. Seems this in
not an uncommon problem at the hospital and they've developed some policies
(which includes armed police and stun guns) for addressing the issue. And no,
I'm not the one that lost the glass eye in Deep Cave- mine healed up fine. I
did have a cool eye patch for a couple of days with a sign on it that read -
Picture your add in this space. I didn't get any takers.
Geary
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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:38 PM
To: Gill Edigar; Fofo
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Chilean Miner Rescue happening right now
Did y'all hear about the miner who had both?
His GF was there to greet him. His wife was nowhere in sight.
You think he might want to climb back down that hole?!
Yikes!
Mark
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Member of the Texas Speleological Association,
This is the last call for absentee voting.
If you will not be able to attend TCR this week end but wish to vote in the
general election of Texas Speleological Association officers for 2011, you
need to write me with your best USPS address to receive a ballot. Official
ballots will be mailed out on Monday, October 18, one to each individual or
student membership and two to each family membership. Please promptly return
the card (postmarked by Friday, October 29) as I will do the final count on
Saturday, October 30. You will need to provide an envelope, stamp and then
mail to the TSA post office box provided on the ballot.
Remember that all candidates must be NSS members, so inquire if you have a
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message for me.
Ron Ralph, Elections Committee Chair
ronra...@austin.rr.com
(512) 280-9648
Sample Ballot (for the Sunday, October 17, 2010 election)
□ Chairman Mark Alman NSS #
43400
□ Vice Chairman Ellie Watson NSS # 60439
□ Treasurer Michael Cicherski NSS #
36668
□ Secretary Denise Prendergast NSS #
48638
□ Floor nomination ________________________________
□ Write in vote ________________________________
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Howdy y'all,
The gate code to get in after hours is 3030.
Information about TCR is available at www.oztotl.com/tcr, t...@oztotl.com, or
by phone at 210-338-0TCR.
See y'all there!
Allan
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TCMA will be serving a fundraising breakfast on Sunday morning. Come have
breakfast tacos, coffee, and juice for a $5 donation to help TCMA buy more
caves. You benefit because you get breakfast and help a good cause at the same
time.
See y'all there!
Allan
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