texascavers Digest 19 Oct 2010 20:05:27 -0000 Issue 1172
Topics (messages 16349 through 16360):
Earth's birthday and Jill Orr Send Off Party
16349 by: Geary Schindel
Re: Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
16350 by: Fritz Holt
16351 by: Stefan Creaser
16352 by: Fritz Holt
16353 by: Fritz Holt
16357 by: SGentry177.aol.com
16358 by: Stefan Creaser
16359 by: Carol Belski
Re: UT Grotto meeting October 20, 2010
16354 by: Fritz Holt
Parks Ranch Cave Map Wanted
16355 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
16356 by: Charles Goldsmith
cavers recycle
16360 by: Sam Young
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Party Announcement
Friday, October 22, 2010 7:03 PM until whenever.
Reason: Celebration of Earth's birthday (6,014 years young) and Jill Orr send
off party.
For those who don't know, Jill will be relocating to San Diego soon.
We'll have the grill going and some drinks but feel free to bring a dish and
any specialty drinks.
Dress: casual wear
Location: Schindel house, 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio 210-479-2151.
Party rules: stay off the roof and don't terrorize the neighbors.
Geary and Sue Schindel
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The dust was minor compared to the camaraderie, visiting with friends, meeting
new ones and the overall good time had by all.
Thanks Allan, Linda, Lyndon, Pete, Stefan and the many others who made it
happen. Location is the least important part of this great event and I will
never have a complaint except we should have it semi-annually.
Fritz
________________________________
From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:05 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Dusty?
What dust?
Never noticed a thing.
Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
Had a great time!
Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this
event possible!
===Carl Kunath
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From: Allan Cobb<mailto:a...@oztotl.com>
To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Howdy y'all,
TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.
Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.
I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to
everyone helped.
This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
See y'all next year,
Allan
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Hi All,
I hope you enjoyed the food at this year's TCR**.
I would personally and publically like to thank my excellent team of cooks who
had to put up with me on the day and for a few weeks beforehand :-)
Your cooks were:
Thai Mains - Laura Coe, James Brown
Salads - Kristina Hager, Alia Stokic, Leslie Bell, Wes Schumacher
Veg - Aimee Beveridge
Starters - Don Cooper
BBQ - Vico Jones, Terry Holsinger and myself.
Dessert - Jocie Hooper, Grace Borengasser, Matt Zappitello
Please thank them next time you see them!
I would also like to thank the people who came by during the day and helped us
out by chopping up stuff, and as dinner time got closer and closer were
co-opted into doing some cooking! There were too many to name here, but they
were *all* appreciated
Thanks too to ASS who en-mass turned up to help serve (and chop stuff too!).
(Will the members of the latter two groups send me an email, please...)
Cheers,
Stefan
(** If not, please email me privately with suggestions)
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From: Allan Cobb [a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 08:47
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Howdy y'all,
TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.
Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.
I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to
everyone helped.
This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
See y'all next year,
Allan
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It is difficult for me to believe that a Texas caver would purposefully cheat
the supporting members of our organizations out of $ 35. to be a part of the
best caving event of the year. I don't understand why every caver is not a
member of TSA and TCMA as the cost is nominal. Some have expressed their
reasons, all of which are lame. Cost is not an issue. If you can purchase
related equipment and gasoline to attend, you can afford the membership fees.
If you arrived after hours and "forgot" to register later, you can still send a
check to Linda Palit. If you did this on purpose, you do not belong in our
group. Go cheat someone else. I will save this post for next year and Gill and
I will remind everyone to watch for those without a wrist band and ask them why
they don't have one.
It was a great event and thanks again to all who worked to make it possible.
Fritz
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From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill
Edigar
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Allan Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb <a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>
> Allan
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Yes, my Ford Exploder and ATV get their bath tonight after work.
Fritz
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From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:58 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
What's a little dust between friends, anyway? It all came off in the first
shower. (The truck is next.)
Roger
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From: Allan Cobb <a...@oztotl.com>
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:47 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Howdy y'all,
TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks to
all those who came out.
Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of TCR.
I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to
everyone helped.
This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come to
TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
See y'all next year,
Allan
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Well said Fritz, we have the same problem at the Kentucky Speleofest.
There are two caving preserves in Kentucky that are supported by caving
events.
For every person who goes out of their way not to pay takes away money
that could be used the up keep, maintenance, improvements of the preserves.
Campgrounds are getting harder to find, much less rent for groups like us.
And there is also the cost of event insurance that cuts into the profits. The
bottom line is those people are enjoying the benefits and have no idea or
care about what it takes to host an event and what the net profits are used
for. I've been following the Texas cave scene for several years now. The
TSA and TCMA are both great organizations that work to protect the caves of
Texas. I know a few of you personally and are friends with some of you on
Facebook and only know rest of you from the here. My hats off to all the
great work being done in Texas.
Steve Gentry
NSS 25136RL FE
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footprints
In a message dated 10/19/2010 12:32:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
fh...@townandcountryins.com writes:
It is difficult for me to believe that a Texas caver would purposefully
cheat the supporting members of our organizations out of $ 35. to be a part
of the best caving event of the year. I don't understand why every caver is
not a member of TSA and TCMA as the cost is nominal. Some have expressed
their reasons, all of which are lame. Cost is not an issue. If you can
purchase related equipment and gasoline to attend, you can afford the
membership
fees. If you arrived after hours and "forgot" to register later, you can
still send a check to Linda Palit. If you did this on purpose, you do not
belong in our group. Go cheat someone else. I will save this post for next
year and Gill and I will remind everyone to watch for those without a wrist
band and ask them why they don't have one.
It was a great event and thanks again to all who worked to make it
possible.
Fritz
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From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Gill Edigar
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Allan Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb <a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>
> Allan
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Every year I forget one, and I *knew* I was missing someone...
Thanks also to Jim Kennedy for doing the pork fried rice, and of course to his
helpers!
Cheers,
Stefan
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From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:58 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Hi All,
I hope you enjoyed the food at this year's TCR**.
I would personally and publically like to thank my excellent team of cooks who
had to put up with me on the day and for a few weeks beforehand :-)
Your cooks were:
Thai Mains - Laura Coe, James Brown
Salads - Kristina Hager, Alia Stokic, Leslie Bell, Wes Schumacher
Veg - Aimee Beveridge
Starters - Don Cooper
BBQ - Vico Jones, Terry Holsinger and myself.
Dessert - Jocie Hooper, Grace Borengasser, Matt Zappitello
Please thank them next time you see them!
I would also like to thank the people who came by during the day and helped us
out by chopping up stuff, and as dinner time got closer and closer were
co-opted into doing some cooking! There were too many to name here, but they
were *all* appreciated
Thanks too to ASS who en-mass turned up to help serve (and chop stuff too!).
(Will the members of the latter two groups send me an email, please...)
Cheers,
Stefan
(** If not, please email me privately with suggestions)
________________________________________
From: Allan Cobb [a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 08:47
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Howdy y'all,
TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.
Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.
I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to
everyone helped.
This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
See y'all next year,
Allan
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Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want
to eat the provided fare: charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per
family). I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more
pennies to cover the costs. ..... just a thought.
Carol
On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:
If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb <a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
The registration count was indeed 381 people.
Allan
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Gary,
You put on a good show of your super strength on Saturday. The entire parade
was really a hoot.
Fritz
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From: Gary Franklin [mailto:caver.g...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:29 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: g...@io.com; j...@zaraenvironmental.com; vivb...@att.net;
peterspro...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Texascavers] UT Grotto meeting October 20, 2010
Greetings Caver,
You are cordially invited to attend the Underground Texas Grotto meeting
October 20, 2010
The meeting is on Wednesday from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M.
University of Texas Campus in 4.42 Painter Hall
XXXX NOTE: THE ROOM NUMBER CHANGE to 4.42 PAI XXXXXXX
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html
The Program for the evening will be Lava Tubes of the Galapagos Islands
presented by Geoff Hoese, Jean Krejca, Vivian Loftin, and Peter Sprouse. Come
hear their first hand accounts on a caving expedition to Isabella, the largest
of the Galapagos Islands. Spend your evening with some Austin cavers sharing
their experiences on this world-class trip to a magical location.
For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see
www.utgrotto.org<http://www.utgrotto.org> All of our information including
officer contact info, trips reports, new caver training, event calendar, and
posting links to beginner trips or vertical rope training are available.
Before the meetings, some may go to Sao Paulo
www.saopaulos.net<http://www.saopaulos.net> for happy hour specials. After
the official meeting, we continue the tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer,
and tall tales of caving at Posse East.
www.posse-east.com<http://www.posse-east.com>
The UT Grotto needs you, the caver with photos and a story to share about your
adventures, scientific research, or something else really cool. Contact Gary
Gary Franklin
UT Grotto Vice-Chair & Program Organizer
512-585-6057
v...@utgrotto.org<mailto:v...@utgrotto.org>
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If someone has a map of Parks Ranch Cave (near CaCa, NM), could you
please send it my way or point me to it.
If one does indeed exist.
Thanks!
Mark
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Sent off list due to the attachment, if anyone else is interested, let me
know offlist please.
Charles
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM, <mark.al...@l-3com.com> wrote:
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The 2010 TCR contributed 6 pounds of plastic and 11 pounds of aluminum. The
plastic drink bottle which was filled with urine is on its way to the landfill.
......... Sam
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