texascavers Digest 8 Aug 2010 21:45:57 -0000 Issue 1129 Topics (messages 15722 through 15731):
I still may try to go to a commercial cave in Tennessee, maybe Ruby Falls ?
15722 by: BMorgan994.aol.com
15724 by: Fritz Holt
Personal Road-trip Report 12 of 20
15723 by: David
Re: 2011 NSS convention
15725 by: mminton.caver.net
OT - wi-fi related
15726 by: David
TPWD Cutting Back Access To Bat-Viewing, Cave-Visiting :
15727 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com
Re: Austin party August 14
15728 by: Jim Kennedy
15729 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Re: Agrilife pamphlet on Caving
15730 by: David
15731 by: Terry Holsinger
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--- Begin Message ---David, stop this hyperfrenetic nonsense. When you get to Chattanooga call up the SCCI, get permission to go to Sinking cove or any of their wonderful properties. No need to actually go in, just sit in the entrance, look at the trees, feel the breeze, and be glad you aren't in either Yankeeland or Texas, which by definition is "too far west"! Sleaze
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--- Begin Message ---Watch it, BM. I hope you mean SE Texas where we are stuck. Geezer ________________________________ From: bmorgan...@aol.com [mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:58 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] I still may try to go to a commercial cave in Tennessee, maybe Ruby Falls ? David, stop this hyperfrenetic nonsense. When you get to Chattanooga call up the SCCI, get permission to go to Sinking cove or any of their wonderful properties. No need to actually go in, just sit in the entrance, look at the trees, feel the breeze, and be glad you aren't in either Yankeeland or Texas, which by definition is "too far west"! Sleaze
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--- Begin Message ---Just took the tour of Forbidden Caverns, near Dandridge, Tennessee. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4595865832_c3c2b79d2e_b.jpg The area around Dandridge looks like a good spot to spend a weekend. Unfortunately, I have to keep driving towards Houston. My only other scheduled stop at the moment is to try to find some really good cajun food in Louisiana. Should be home by Saturday evening, and this report should be my last one related to my journey to and from the NSS Howdy Party. David Locklear P.S. This was my 1st Cavetex post to use a wi-fi notebook connected wirelessly thru a cell-phone that has 3G service. It seems to work far better than having to hunt for a wi-fi location. The phone is a Palm that somebody near me in a restaurant is letting me use. I would recommend getting a phone that does that before a big road-trip, or even better - an iPad.
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--- Begin Message ---Quoting ryan monjaras <trog...@hotmail.com>:They got a promo video and now you can register. http://nss2011.com/info.htm Can't wait, looks awsome.And if you register by midnight tonight (Friday, Aug 6), you get a special $10 discount! I thought it was only for people at this year's Convention, but apparently not. :-)Mark Minton
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--- Begin Message ---In the 4,000 mile journey that I am still on, I only saw 2 Starbucks while I was looking for wi-fi. I am sure Starbucks were around had I been willing to go hunt for one. But down in the southeast, the best place seems to be Krystal ( Hamburgers ). http://krystal.com/locations/ Their wi-fi works much better than McDonalds. Also, both Krystal and McDonald's allow you to use their service in their parking lot, so you just need a good antenna. This apparently works even when the food places are closed. Many food places I like to stop, like Waffle House, do not yet have wi-fi. Subway ( sandwiches ) has wi-fi in some places, but I couldn't get it to work. The manager didn't know the code, but I had a strong signal. Having access to road information, news, and weather radar, and tourist info, and staying in touch with friends is a good reason to carry a wi-fi notebook on a road-trip. I just didn't have much luck with it on this trip. I highly recommend bringing a 10 foot lightweight extension cord, and longer if you are really concerned about keeping your battery charged. A car charger is a must have also. David ( in Chattanooga, heading southwest on I-59 )
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--- Begin Message ---TPWD Cutting Back Access To Bat-Viewing, Cave-Visiting By _Richard Connelly_ (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/email.php?to=1019&author_name=Richard+Connelly&story_url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.houstonpress.com%2Fhair balls%2F2010%2F08%2Ftpwd_cutting_back_access_to_ba.php&story_title=TPWD+Cutt ing+Back+Access+To+Bat-Viewing%2C+Cave-Visiting&blog_name=Hair+Balls) , Fri., Aug. 6 2010 @ 4:14PM The Texas Parks & Wildlife Department is closing some of the state's caves and prime bat-viewing sites to fight a contagious disease that's fatal to bats. White Nose Syndrome has spread from the East Coast, and the sites are being closed "our of an abundance of caution, said David Riskind, director of natural resources for TPWD. Bats who catch WNS wake up too early from hibernation and haven't stored enough fat to get through the winter. Gorman Cave at Colorado Bend State Park is now closed. The public can no longer enter Stuart Bat Cave at Kickapoo Caverns, the Devil's Sinkhole near Rocksprings and the caves at Old Tunnel Wildlife Management Area, but they can still view batflights in those locations. Operations at Longhorn Caverns will not be affected. Little is known about WNS, but some think it can be carried via clothing or backpacks, TPWD mammologist John Young said. Since it was found in a New York state cave three years ago, more than a million bats have died from it. The fungus has been confirmed in Oklahoma, but has yet to be seen in Texas. "We know we can limit the potential for people accidentally transporting the fungus by limiting or restricting access to caves," Young said. "Bats eat millions of insect pests. We can't even begin to estimate the impact that a massive loss of bat species would have on crops, the Texas economy and our environment." _http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/08/tpwd_cutting_back_access_to _ba.php_ (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/08/tpwd_cutting_back_access_to_ba.php)
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--- Begin Message ---In these lean economic times, we are having a party next weekend and celebrating the Decade of Excess: the 1980s. Come to Ediger's place in south Austin for an evening of big hair, tight pants, and loud music. Dress in your best 80s get-up and party with us all evening. Think Autograph, Bon Jovi, Britny Fox, Cinderella, Def Leopard, Dokken, Faster Pussycat, Giuffria, Great White, Guns n' Roses, Iron Maiden, KISS, Kix, Krokus, L. A. Guns, Lita Ford, Motley Crue, Poison, Quiet Riot, Ratt, Scorpions, Slaughter, Skid Row, Tesla, Twisted Sister, Ugly Kid Joe, Van Halen, Vixen, Warrant, W.A.S.P., White Lion, Whitesnake, Winger, and others I've probably forgotten. We even throw in a few token punk and new wave tunes that we all know and love. So dig out your jackets and spandex, buy a can of hairspray or two, and throw on some mascara, eye shadow, and a load of bangles and bandanas for a rockin' good time. BYOB. Snacks may be provided. If you need directions, let us know. Authentic rock stars and groupies also welcome. Crash
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Not much fun for those of us who became productive members of society in the 80s. <snork>
Baldemar Huerta
Aug 7, 2010 10:01:17 AM, jkenn...@batcon.org wrote:
In these lean economic times, we are having a party next weekend and celebrating the Decade of Excess: the 1980s. Come to Ediger’s place in south Austin for an evening of big hair, tight pants, and loud music. Dress in your best 80s get-up and party with us all evening. Think Autograph, Bon Jovi, Britny Fox, Cinderella, Def Leopard, Dokken, Faster Pussycat, Giuffria, Great White, Guns n’ Roses, Iron Maiden, KISS, Kix, Krokus, L. A. Guns, Lita Ford, Motley Crue, Poison, Quiet Riot, Ratt, Scorpions, Slaughter, Skid Row, Tesla, Twisted Sister, Ugly Kid Joe, Van Halen, Vixen, Warrant, W.A.S.P., White Lion, Whitesnake, Winger, and others I’ve probably forgotten. We even throw in a few token punk and new wave tunes that we all know and love. So dig out your jackets and spandex, buy a can of hairspray or two, and throw on some mascara, eye shadow, and a load of bangles and bandanas for a rockin’ good time. BYOB. Snacks may be provided. If you need directions, let us know. Authentic rock stars and groupies also welcome.
Crash
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--- Begin Message ---I skimmed thru the pamphlet and it seems like a very good idea, or at least a good start to a great idea. An improvement, would be to have pictures of caves that are on private land, as opposed to the commercial caves or caves on gov't land. Especially a photo of a rancher in a cave. A picture of a rancher interacting with a caver would be helpful. In the technical writing class that I took at A&M, we were taught to always write for your audience. In this case, the Texas rancher seems to be the person that would most likely be skimming thru this. They may not read it so, it would be important that the key message be obvious. For example, what does the rancher have to gain by allowing caving on their property? Instead of the table about percentages of cavers, I would put a small drawing of west Texas showing approximately how many caves are distributed across west Texas. I think Amanda did good by publishing this. And in the list of resources, I would emphasize that if you are a rancher that owns a cave and wants someone to talk to you about it to call, a particular cave liasson type person, and provide their name phone and number. I doubt the NPS is going to be of any help. Also, a bold message explaining that cavers respect rancher's property and do not vandalize or leave gates open. David Locklear
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--- Begin Message --- One of the photos on page 2 shows S.M.U.G.'s own Ben Hutchins preparing his sketch book for the survey of O.B.W1 cave on a ranch in Kendall County.Terry H. On 8/8/2010 11:13 AM, David wrote:I skimmed thru the pamphlet and it seems like a very good idea, or at least a good start to a great idea. An improvement, would be to have pictures of caves that are on private land, as opposed to the commercial caves or caves on gov't land.
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