texascavers Digest 9 Jun 2010 09:40:06 -0000 Issue 1072
Topics (messages 15042 through 15051):
Re: is deep freediving safe?
15042 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
Re: We are all just a bunch of wimps
15043 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
15048 by: vivbone.att.net
bodies in cave in Mexico
15044 by: Mixon Bill
KXAN 10pm news
15045 by: Jim Kennedy
Lydia makes the news!
15046 by: Jim Kennedy
Saj makes the news also!
15047 by: Jim Kennedy
Spain to reopen access to prehistoric cave paintings :
15049 by: jerryatkin.aol.com
Urgent your permission and your photo! Moni Ponce
15050 by: Espeleo Coahuila
List of the names of the pic that I have... Moni
15051 by: Espeleo Coahuila
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He went all the way to the bottom (663 ft). No, it is not safe and I urge
anyone who wants to try deep (or any) freediving to take at least one
freediving class. This guy is one of the top 0.001% of freedivers on the planet
and knows what he is doing.
There is little risk of getting the bends. He is taking a lungful at the
surface and holding it, not breathing compressed air. Check out his chest when
he poses at the bottom and you will see how much that volume of air has
compressed. The BIG risk in freediving is shallow water blackout. This happens
when your pp of O2 drops. Usually the increase in the pp of CO2 causes the urge
to breath. With training, one can push past that urge but it is a very
dangerous place to be. Hyperventilating is a bad idea because it fools your
body into crossing that "breath NOW" threshold and you wind up blacking out and
convulsing underwater.
Damn, I wish I was in the water right now.
Andy
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
[email protected]
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Charles Goldsmith <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] We are all just a bunch of wimps
To: [email protected]
Cc: "texas cavers" <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 10:47 AM
It's hard to tell how deep he goes, but is this safe? I'm no diver, and
certainly no expert, but isn't this dangerous from the bends perspective?
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tiny-lunged wimps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQITWbAaDx0&feature=player_embedded
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
[email protected]
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It can and does happen to folks who do repetitive deep dives (i.e. sponge
divers). The nitrogen levels in the blood build up and take time to off-gas.
Andy
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
[email protected]
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Stefan Creaser <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Stefan Creaser <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] We are all just a bunch of wimps
To: "Charles Goldsmith" <[email protected]>
Cc: "texas cavers" <[email protected]>
List-Post: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 11:13 AM
No, you start and end with the same air in your body that you started with when
freediving. The bends are caused by you absorbing nitrogen into the blood that
you are breathing at depth.
That’s the quick, simple explanation…
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] We are all just a bunch of wimps
It's hard to tell how deep he goes, but is this safe? I'm no diver, and
certainly no expert, but isn't this dangerous from the bends perspective?
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tiny-lunged wimps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQITWbAaDx0&feature=player_embedded
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
[email protected]
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Fyi, he didn't actually free dive the full depth. the breath hold record is
less than half the depth of this hole. it was filmed over a few days.
this note, from the guy himself, accompanies the video:
"FREE FALL: World champion freediver Guillaume Nery special dive at
Dean's Blue Hole, the deepest blue hole in the world filmed entirely on
breath hold by the french champion Julie Gautier. This video is a
FICTION and an ARTISTIC PROJECT. Edited by BLUENERY (c). Music: ARCHIVE - you
make me feel."
Of course it is still very impressive. David Locklear posted a link to this
video a few days ago.
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From: Don Cooper <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: texas cavers <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, June 8, 2010 11:09:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] We are all just a bunch of wimps
Filmed by some guy with a rebreather!
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tiny-lunged wimps.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQITWbAaDx0&feature=player_embedded
>
>Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
>700 Billie Brooks Drive
>>Driftwood, Texas 78619
>(512) 799-1095
>[email protected]
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I've spent some time Googling to find info about the finding of six
murder victims in a "cave" near Cancún, Quintana Roo, on June 7.
Pretty much everything is just copies of two press reports, one in
English and one in Spanish. There were four men and two women, all of
whom had traces of drugs in their bodies. Initial stories that three
of them had had their hearts cut out were apparently untrue; they had
just been stabbed so many times in the chest that it initially looked
that way. No clue about what cave it might have been. Some reports say
"natural cave," but from others it appears to have been a culvert
under a federal highway. Anybody know any more? -- Mixon
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If you are home tonight (Tuesday 8 June), be sure to watch yours truly
talk about bat houses.
-- Jim
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A photo from the Austin "Night of the Bat" on Sunday:
http://galleries.austin360.com/gallery/austin-fang-tastic-family-fest/?s
rcTrk=RTR_526441#90225
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http://galleries.austin360.com/gallery/austin-fang-tastic-family-fest/?s
rcTrk=RTR_526441#90196
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Spain to reopen access to prehistoric cave paintings
(AFP) – 7 hours ago
MADRID — Spain's Altamira cave, which contains some of the world's most
important prehistoric paintings, will reopen to the public at the end of the
year for the first time since 2002, the government said Tuesday.
A panel of experts will determine how many people can enter the cave located
some 30 kilometres (19 miles) west of the northern city of Santander without
damaging the paintings, Culture Minister Angeles Gonzalez-Sinde told reporters.
The cave, dubbed the "Sistine Chapel of prehistoric art", is covered with
paintings of bulls, bisons, boar and other animals etched in red, yellow and
black that are estimared to be at least 14,000 years old.
Miguel Angel Revilla, head of the government of the northern region of
Cantabria, said he hoped US President Barack Obama would be the first person to
visit the cave when it reopens to the public. "I have already written the
invitation letter, and in English," he said.
The cave was first closed to the public in 1977 because the paintings were
being damaged by the carbon dioxide from the breath of large numbers of
visitors.
It was reopened in 1982 but with restrictions on the number of people who could
visit it and remained open until September 2002. Over the past eight years
people have been able to visit a replica of the cave located nearby in the
northern town of Santillana del Mar which has drawn 2.5 million visitors since
it opened. The cave, which was discovered in the late 19th century, was
declared a World Heritage Site by UNESCO in 1985.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jqVT2J-ZLZwOaonnfvUglT8mYP0Av
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Hello Everybody
Thanks for attend this messages, I need your help.
I will participated in art competition Oncology Canvas, this event was
create for the people with Cancer and in the hospital and the program Thrive
Well, invite me to participated this year. This project has to sharing our
history our experiences with the cancer.
I was work my idea with Carol Shumacher and decide to participed with a
picture Mix media, the last month, Ernie Garza take the picture in Milenium
Cave in Austin. And Christopher, Leslie bell, Sandy, Carol, help me make
real this opportunity.
In my idea for it, I will mix with the formation, all the faces of all the
persons who help me in this long year with my treatments, all the persons
that help me and support me, so I have more o less 200 faces, and I need
your permission for use your face in my project, so, I need that you send me
a email with your name, and tell me that you are agree that I use your image
in my project.
Some of the faces, I have from the exploration in Coahuila, others I take in
FaceBook, an others send me, but if you don't send me a picture and want
participated with me please, send me tomorrow, and your permission too.
Is urgent, because I have to finish this week the picture, and prepared all
my stuff for postmarked before the 16 June.
If I don't have your permission, I have to erase your face and I don't want
that.
So I wait for your answer.
thank you very much.
Moni
Note: I will send a list of the faces that I have. (thanks) in other
messages...
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LCC Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez
Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C.
San Antonio, Texas
[email protected]
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This is the list of the pictures that I have: If your pic is not here,
please send me one this week!
1. Peter Sprouse
2. Terri Sprouse
3. Gill Ediger
4. Cathy Winfield
5. Linda Palit
6. Allan Cobb
7. Joe Ranzau
8. Joe Datri
9. Sara DuBoz
10. Evelyn Mitchell
11. Joe Mitchel
12. Susan Shindel
13. George Venni
14. Sandy Coulgan
15. Ellie Thonoe
16. Zach Schudrowsky
17. Jean Krejka
18. Dominique
19. Blake Harrison
20. Aimee Beveridge
21. Geoff Hoese
22. Vivian Loftin
23. Jackie Kenedy
24. Beverly Shade
25. Jubal Grubbs
26. Kory Jones
27. Jorge Wesendarp
28. Velia Menchaca
29. Jim Kennedy
30. Yazmin Avila
31. Laura Rosales
32. Carolina
33. Kathleen O’connor
34. Dale barnad
35. Deniss Perdengast
36. Nicolas Arburn
37. Don Arburn
38. Jenni Arburn
39. Jessica Arburn
40. Charles (abuelo Arburn)
41. Lavonne (Arburn)
42. Ernie Garza
43. Carol Shumacher
44. Horacio Lopez
45. Analaura Ponce
46. Patricia Ponce
47. Hector Ponce
48. Laura Gonzalez
49. Cinthya Sanchez
50. Andrea Sanchez
51. Nicol Martinez
52. Oscar Martinez
53. Jonathan Monroy
54. David Monroy
55. Ana Martinez
56. Guillermo PonceLagos
57. Alfio Vega
58. Juan Carlos Villarreal
59. Martha Vallejo
60. Reyes Orozco
61. Juan Montano
62. Peter Strickland
63. Jocye Strickland
64. Dra. Rosa Gloria Najera
65. Dra. Gladys Rodriguez
66. Dr. Ameduri
67. Jean Louis Lacaille
68. Christopher
69. Leslie Bell
70. Jose Fernandez
71. Mauricio Perezgomez
72. Cynthia Esparza
73. Nancy Esparza
74. Juany Chavez
75. Alejandro Benavente
76. Oscar Berrones
77. Marie Berrones
78. Luna Berrones
79. Heather Trucker
80. Mimi Alexander
81. Luca Alexander
82. Brigitt Alexander
83. Edward Alexander
84. Carlos Lazcano
85. Ciccio Lo Mastro
86. Alicia Davila ( beba)
87. Italo Giulivo
88. Tullio Bernabei
89. Frank Binney
90. Mike A. Breiding
91. Andy Gluesenkamp
92. Crystal
93. Honorato del Portillo
94. Jackie Kenedy
95. Wes Schumacher
96. Matt Zapitelo
97. Saj Zapittelo
98. Liliana Palma
99. America Deget Ibarra
100. Amalia Montoya
101. Beto Montoya
102. Rene Schwara
103. Michael Pugliese
104. Charlie Saavas
105. Kara Dimter
106. Ann Scott
107. Rene Shields
108. Gustavo Duron
109. Claudia Collins
110. Jorge Sanchez
111. Terry Raines
112. Mercy Raines
113. Sofia
114. Phillipe
115. Bill Mixon
116. Fofo Gonzalez
117. Gustavo Vela
118. Terry Hosinger
119. Vico Jones
120. Leah Gluesenkamp
121. Shannon Summer
122. Robin gary
123. Marcus gary
124. Vickie ( Boerne hospital)
125. Mireya (START)
126. Don Cooper
127. Daniel Castro Tello
128. Eduardo Mendoza
129. Roy (barded man)
130. Orion Nox
131. Stephen
132. Gary Franklin
133. Crhristie
134. Ron Rudholf
135. Ted Samsel
136. Andy Zenker
137. Alfredo Flores
138. Diana Flores
139. April
140. Steve
141. Chrys Lloyd
142. Cuate Sanchez
143. Higinio Gonzalez
144. Emelie McDowel
145. Vicent McDowel
146. Fernando Reyna
147. Javier Banda
148. Journey Bisset
149. Joana ( Nurse)
150. Liza (Wong)
151. Corinne Wong
152. Lorenzo (Mx)
153. Louis Touissant
154. Magali Munoz
155. Martha Medina
156. Mike H (SA)
157. Ricardo Corbel
158. Rob Bisset
159. Jill Org
160. Tone Garot
161. Grace Borengasser
Si faltas tu, mandame tu foto lo mas rapido que puedas en esta semana.
162. Other….
163.
thanks
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LCC Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez
San Antonio, Texas
[email protected]
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